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  • Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO
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    It also appears in this book under "(H. Vernon), The Devil's Derelicts. 224 pp. Ibid. 2/6"



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  • Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO
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    Is this it in a collection or something?

    The list appears to be all the books by the certain publisher

    Maybe the book is credited to "H.Vernon" as in the list...

    PETftt, ttoizzle- twigs', dial, word IV, 507. weathercock, use of the word III, 288, undertaker , 188, 212, 273; IV, 436, 334, 352. vouchsafe, substantive IV, 386. Wilie-beguiles HI, 125. Wright (Joseph), The English Dialect Dictionary. Pts. XXIV--XXVIII. Frowde. Bespr. Notes & Queries 10th Series 17, 377-, Zs. f. deutsche Wortforschung VII, 4; Allgemeine Zeitung 237 (A. Schröer: Die Vollendung des englischen Dialektwörterbuchs). -- The English Dialect Grammar. 720 pp. H. Frowde. net, 6/. Bespr. Notes & Queries 10th Series IV, 377; The Athenaeum 4072; The Journal of English and Germanic Philol. VI, 4 (G. T. Flom). -- Completion of English Dialect Dictionary. Cf. Notes & Queries 10th Series IV, 381. Wundt (W.), Völkerpsychologie. I. Die Sprache. 2. Aufl. II. Teil. Leipzig, Engelmann. M. 14. Bespr. Wochenschrift für klass. Philologie XXII, 23 (Schneidewin); Zs. f. roman. Philol. XXX, 4 (0. Dittrich); Neue Philol. Rundscliau 1906, No. IS (J. Keller); Zs. f. deutsche Philol. XXXV1I1,4 (Fr. Kaufmann). Wyld (H. C.), The History of Old English Fronted (Palatalized) Initial in Middle and Modern English Dialects. On the Etymologies of the English Words blight and blain, chornels and Kernels. Otia Merseiana II. Williams & Norgate. Yorkshire Dialect Society. Transactions of. P.


    Anglia - Zeitschrift für englische Philologie , Volume 30 (s1)
    de Gruyter – Jan 1, 1907

    Harcourt (F. C. V.), Bolts and Bars. 256 pp. Digby, Long & Co. 3/6. -- (H. Vernon), The Devil's Derelicts. 224 pp. Ibid. 2/6.

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  • Debra Arif
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    Originally posted by Nemo View Post
    Thanks Deb

    I realised it was an advert earlier - lol

    The Devils Derelicts is not fiction?

    The Vampire guy is noteworthy

    Harcourt himself sounds interesting as a criminologist versed in surgical matters

    I've ordered a copy of Bolts and Bars so I'll let you know if it has anything interesting in it

    It also has illustrations by A. Pearse
    Lol
    I wonder why Phil's book contacts were under the same impression that it was a war book too? Maybe they googled and found this thread!

    I'm not sure if Devil's Derelicts is pure fiction, non fiction or fiction based on fact, people he studied in prison maybe?
    Thanks Nemo, don't blame me if it's a crap read though, I'll look forward to hearing about it though.
    I'll keep an eye out for DD...although I guess I might not get such a bargain as your £5 buy if this one's as rare as it seems to be..

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  • Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO
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    PS
    I just noticed the "From Stage to Cross" which is subtitled "Record of a Rolling Stone"! - lol

    There's a copy for £5 on Amazon so I just ordered that too

    (I'm on a book buying spree at the moment)

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  • Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO
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    Thanks Deb

    I realised it was an advert earlier - lol

    The Devils Derelicts is not fiction?

    The Vampire guy is noteworthy

    Harcourt himself sounds interesting as a criminologist versed in surgical matters

    I've ordered a copy of Bolts and Bars so I'll let you know if it has anything interesting in it

    It also has illustrations by A. Pearse

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  • Debra Arif
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    Nemo, I see you linked to something about Bolts and Bars earlier in the thread,didn't see that before, sorry.
    That link shows a review of the book Bolts and Bars and not an introduction (this review appears on the second page of the book when you look at the digitized version rather than the text version), the full text that follows is for a different book, 'Reminiscences of Grenadier 1914-1919, by a different author.

    The first advert for Bolts and Bars that I could find appeared in a 1904 book 'The Redemption of Damian Gier' by Winefride Trafford-Taunton

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  • Debra Arif
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    Hi Phil,
    Thanks very much for going to all that trouble of trying to find out about this book. It doesn't seem to have been a best seller does it?!

    As far as 'Bolts and Bars' goes, the book was written c 1904/5 and definitely is about prison life judging by this advert.

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Debs,

    Thanks for these newspaper snippets. They are very interesting indeed.

    I have been searching the world over on Antiquarian books sites, and wrote to a few well-known ones and a few specialist ones. Those who have replied, know not of this publication (The Devil's Derelicts) although a few did point to the above mentioned, "Bolts and Bars", which they said had something to do with the 1st World War..?

    I will keep searching. There is a possibility that it may be listed under Harcourt, or Vernon.

    kindly

    Phil

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  • Debra Arif
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    Nemo, Phil,
    The manslaughter charge related to a political disagreement and physical fight than ended in a man's death. Harcourt was acquitted as it was obviously a fair fight and the death accidental.

    I'm just posting these two snippets as they give a bit of background on Harcourt, though not much.

    The book I was trying to remember the name of earlier was 'Bolts and Bars'. This seems to suggest Harcourt took an interest in prison life and convicts.
    I'm just interested in The devil's Derelicts really for 'The Vampire' story and to see if the 'extraordinary criminal' in that might be anyone recognisable.

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    Sheffield and Rotherham Independent, Tues Aug 9, Thurs Aug 11 1892

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  • Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO
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    Thanks Phil

    Sounds interesting Deb, though obviously manslaughter doesn't necessarily indicate any badness in the man

    He gets about a bit doesn't he

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Debs,

    Thank you, yes, I would be very interested.

    I am trying to trace this fellow. His full name is a strange one for it should link him in with both the Leveson Gower family (Re. William Vernon Harcourt) and the Vernon and Harcourt families themselves, but as yet I cannot find a definitive for the man. Hopefully someone else's brain is working faster than mine this morning.. and will find the answer easy peasy.
    Unless I have missed it (probably), ancestral trees have not shown this full name yet.

    Many thanks

    kindly

    Phil

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  • Debra Arif
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    Phil, the author and the man on trial for manslaughter appear to be the same person.
    There are a few newspaper reports of the hearing and he is described as an actor and author. I will try and post a couple later today if anyone's interested.

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Nemo,

    In addition to a book about the 1st World War, F.C.Vernon Harcourt appears to have written a book on the Boer War too..

    BIBLE ON THE BATTLEFIELD, THE, by F. C. Vernon-Harcourt, Marshall Brothers, 1903

    kindly

    Phil

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  • Phil Carter
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    Thanks Debs,

    Most obliged :-)

    You may type slowly, but the brain works fast :-)

    kindly

    Phil

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  • Debra Arif
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    Phil, this is one from the criminal registers on Ancestry:

    Name: Frederick Claude Vernon Harcourt
    Date of Trial: 6 Dec 1892
    Trial Year: 1892
    Location of Trial: Yorkshire - West Riding, England
    Sentence: Acquittal

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