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  • Howard Brown
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    For those interested, Stephen Ryder located it this past weekend in German...
    Tommy Schachner, webhost of the German JTR website, also has been able to find it.

    Here :

    http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berl...YSID=PHYS_0024

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  • Christian Jd
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    good it ain't lost. Although I'd prefer to wait years for the German original than for someone to translate from serbian.
    Oh, and tell Tom to get...
    ;-)
    c

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  • George Hutchinson
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    Hi Christian - nah, it was a case of contacting them to tell them I had forgotten to bid and that if the sale fell through, I was interested.

    Chris - this very evening I believe I found out who bought it. It was someone we know in the field if my information is correct, so it's not 'lost'.

    PHILIP

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  • Chris Scott
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    Hi Phil
    Sorry you missed it.
    Anyone know who did finally buy it?

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  • Christian Jd
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    Yes, Phil, I asked the seller some questions as well and always got prompt and nice replies. I do not know why people reacted so negatively.

    " I did contact the seller, .... but it had already been paid for and sent"
    What does that mean, trying to secure the item after end of auction?

    bestest
    c

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  • George Hutchinson
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    I was going to bid quite respectably on the Serbian item but I forgot it was closing and came back to it 15 minutes after it had ended. I was gutted it went for the opening bid (value of content aside, the value of the actual physical ITEM made it very desirable). I did contact the seller, who was good enough to reply, but it had already been paid for and sent. I was following this one throughout and, personally, I think the seller's been as helpful and honest as they could be.

    PHILIP

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  • Chris G.
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    Hi all

    Our Serbian friend is also selling a copy of a first edition book of poetry titled Avebury by British poet Richard Burns, published in 1972, and signed to the late Serbian poet Ivan V. Lalić (1931–1996) for $46.99. I was curious about the book and about Burns. I have discovered that the poet's real name is Richard Berengarten and he has had an accomplished career. I found a free pdf copy of Avebury available for download on line so I guess I will not be sending my money to Serbia! The book-long poem, about the prehistoric megalithic monument near Stonehenge and not as touristy... worth seeing if you are in the UK -- the large stone circle encircles the village of Avebury -- makes for a provocative read.

    Chris

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  • Howard Brown
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    I hope the bidder gets something for the money he or she spent because I sincerely doubt that that book is what its cracked up to be.

    There's no way that that book is a few thousand pages on the WM.

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  • Phil Carter
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    Conclusion

    Originally posted by Mike Covell View Post
    A book about a diary that might have missing pages.
    Hello Mike, all,

    Well, someone bid on it, at $140. From what I could find out though, it seems to be a novel based on a fictional detective, and of course, a fictional JTR diary.
    Given it's overall condition, and with so much missing, and the above, I didn't deem it worth the bother of immense translation, over a long period of time.
    Obviously, the winning bidder thought otherwise, a ripper fan, of course.

    No doubt in 10 years time the translated version will appear.

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • Mike Covell
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    A book about a diary that might have missing pages.

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  • Chris Scott
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    Hi Christian
    Many thanks for that info
    Much appreciated
    Chris

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  • Christian Jd
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    Guido v. Fels alias Paul Walter was German. At the end of the 19. century he was a highly productive author of cheap novelettes. One source (book about literature) mentions 200,000 printed pages.
    He wrote cheap fiction, no history. It was almost an industry producing those penny dreadfuls andf the authors only got a minimum share of the earnings.

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  • Chris Scott
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    In the notes now attached to the listing it says:
    Translated into Serbian language by Nikola Jov. Protic

    The question springs to mind - translated from which language? What nationality was Guido von Fels / Paul Walker?
    Supposedly the original of the book existed in the language of the author...

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  • Chris Scott
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    Thanks Phil
    here is the info currently given on the Ebay listing:

    [Jack The Ripper: mysterious killer of women in London.
    The most interesting crime novel from the life of London
    Upon the notes of famous London detective Davies and the diary of Jack himself].
    Džek Trbosek, tajanstveni ubilac ženskinja u Londonu
    Najinteresantniji krivicni roman iz londonskog života
    Po beleškama slavnog londonskog detektiva Devisa i dnevniku samoga Džeka
    (transcription of cirillyc text)
    Gvido Fels (Guido Fels).

    This is extremely rare first Serbian edition, second printing in 1920s.
    There are no copies recorded in any Serbian public or private library.
    This is only known copy of this title.
    Translated into Serbian language by Nikola Jov. Protic and published by Rajkovic i Djukovic, Beograd, Terazije.
    Later cloth binding.
    In fair condition.
    In almost every volume several pages more or less damaged. Small dump stains in several volumes.
    Misplaced numbers on spine cover on volumes 7 and 9.
    Printed in Belgrade, Serbia in 1920s.

    Vol. 1: pp. 298.
    Vol. 2: pp. 326. The end is missing, probably couple of pages.
    Vol. 3: pp. 314.
    Vol. 4: pp. 334
    Vol. 5: pp. 327 with 8 illustrations. Pp. 207/208 seriously damaged, affecting the text.
    Vol. 6: pp. 331 with 7 illustrations.
    Vol. 7: pp. 5 - 328 with 7 illustrations. Title and following leaf missing (pp. 1-4). Pp. 5-12 torn.
    Vol. 8: pp. 5 - 331 with 4 pictures. Title and following leaf missing (pp. 1-4). Pp. 307-310 seriously damaged, affecting the text.
    Vol. 9: pp. 5 - 324 with 8 illustrations. Title and following leaf missing (pp. 1-4). Pp. 5-10, 13-16, 209-304, 329-332 seriously damaged, affecting the text. A few pages on the end missing.
    Vol. 10: pp. 422 with 5 pictures illustrations. Title and following leaf detached (pp. 1-4).
    We could not compare completeness of our copy with any other copies, because this title appear as unrecorded in Serbian catalogs and bibliographies.
    Size: 12,1 x 17,6 cm.

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Hi Phil
    Good luck with your bid - keep us posted how things go
    Fingers crossed:-)
    You say "the seller has now changed the description of the article" - is that as regards condition or content?
    The Ebay listing and sellers's comments says this book is not listed in any state or private Serb library, and as the seller's location is given as Belgrade, it is possible it has never left the country, so may be previously unknown.
    Chris S
    Hello Chris,

    The changes refer to the damage to the article, now listed as it wasn't previously. In it's present state, the value of the article is seriously impaired.
    I have mentioned this in my email. Strangely, although Serbian in origin, the person selling this is in Italy. So I am being extremely careful about this one. I want to know all the details before I even put in a final offer.

    Thanks for the support.. I have spoken to a colleague here and although he understands my interest, was fair enough to warn me over such internet sales, as the words "kosher" and "con-merchants" may come into play here.

    best wishes

    Phil

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