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  • #31
    Jon:

    If someone is in the vicinity...maybe they can stop in and get your question answered.....because I'm certain all of us would like to know who Keith Stride is, as he's touted as a member of the club featuring the world's greatest experts on Ripperology .......

    Ed Stow is one of the authors.....maybe he can find out.

    What about it, Ed ?

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    Official book launch to celebrate the release of the eagerly anticipated;
    WHO WAS JACK THE RIPPER?
    By members of H Division Crime Club
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    44-46 Goulston Street Spitalfields, London E1 7TP

    FRIDAY 25th OCTOBER
    for FREE EVENT evening with the authors of our new book.

    This will be a fantastic opportunity to meet some of the best researchers in the field of Ripperology today and have your new book personally signed by them.

    WHATS INCLUDED?

    A chance to meet the authors and purchase a copy of the new book at 1/3 off the retail price

    Complimentary glass of wine

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    A short guided tour by one of the book authors.

    A special tribute to the late great Martin Fido - who provided his final research for the book before sadly passing away.

    (Guided tour will last 1 hour and finish at the White Hart pub on Gunthorpe Street)

    WHO WAS JACK THE RIPPER?
    All the Suspects revealed.
    By members of H Division Crime Club.
    Join us for an evening celebrating the launch of our latest book - the evening will consist of a free wine reception, food, talks and discussions and a short guided tour by one of our authors.

    Book description -
    Jack the Ripper is the ultimate cold case. The Whitechapel Murders of 1888 have remained unsolved for over 130 years and hundreds of theories have been suggested as to the killer's identity.

    Despite numerous books claiming to unmask the infamous Victorian villain, none have come close …. until now.

    The authors of this book are all members of H Division Crime Club, the world's largest body of experts on the Jack the Ripper murders.

    They have all come together for the first time in history to deliver their own personal research into each suspect and to finally nail down the identity of the man known as Jack the Ripper.

    Taking the original police reports, eye witness accounts and research by the world's leading authorities into account, we ask two crucial questions:

    Who did the police suspect at the time?

    Who was in the area to commit the murders?

    Using 21st-century profiling techniques, it is time to reveal the truth behind the men most likely to have been Jack the Ripper.

    With each chapter discussing a separate suspect in detail, this book is the ultimate guide to solving the world's greatest murder mystery.

    AUTHORS -

    Prof David Canter
    Dr. Katherine Ramsland
    Mei Trow
    Mick Priestley
    Edward Stow
    Steve Blomer
    Tracey I’anson
    Bill Beadle
    Bob Hinton
    Richard C Cobb
    Michael Hawley
    Keith Stride
    David Andersen
    Martin Fido

    THIS EVENT IS FREE TO ATTEND

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
      Jon:

      If someone is in the vicinity...maybe they can stop in and get your question answered.....because I'm certain all of us would like to know who Keith Stride is, as he's touted as a member of the club featuring the world's greatest experts on Ripperology ?

      As it's a Barnett chapter...maybe he'll look like Paul Harrison.



      JM

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      • #33
        Just finished it. It's a rather slim volume at 184 pages and expensive. "Montague John Druitt - Homicidal Suicide" (by David Andersen) and "Francis Tumblety - The Man in the Slouch Hat" (by Mike Hawley) were the best chapters.

        I was disappointed with Martin Fido's piece on Cohen. He could have included new information (that is now 5 - 6 years old), but instead he rehashed his Ripperologist piece of several years ago. Most of the chapter was spent defending Anderson's character, the arguments of which most of us have been familiar with for a long time.

        Ditto with Steve Blomer's piece on Kosminski. There were some minor errors. I should have been picked to write the Kosminski chapter.

        Maybe I should have joined the H Division Crime Club then?

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        • #34
          Maybe I should have joined the H Division Crime Club then?

          Join, Scott, and find out who the hell Keith Stride is.

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          • #35
            The second chapter in the book, written by someone calling himself Keith Stride, concerns the suspect candidacy of Joseph Barnett. If you’ve read Bruce Paley’s The Simple Truth, or Paul Harrions’ book (or more accessible, his essay in The Mammoth Book of Jack the Ripper) you’ll find there’s very little new in this chapter. Its all a pretty boiler plate Barnett-as-suspect 101.
            What is interesting about this chapter though, is when the author isn’t going through the motions of Barnett suspect speculating but is filling in just the basic biographical material on Barnett, he copies, word for word, large portions of another author’s work. And, when ‘Stride’ brings up what he believes is a parallel case, that of Peter Sutcliffe, he does the same thing. So, ‘Mr. Stride’ is apparently so unsure of his chosen topic, even his suspect’s biography, that he directly copies and pastes from other writers without giving them acknowledgment or credit. These sources used by ‘Stride’ don’t even appear in the Bibliography provided in the back of the book. At least not in the digital copy I received. We’ll start with the section in his chapter concerning Peter Sutcliffe. It’s worth mentioning that the compiler of this book, Ricky Cobb, presents himself as an expert on the Yorkshire Ripper and has announced his own forthcoming book on that case. I wonder why he failed to take any interest in what ‘Keith Stride’ had to say about Sutcliffe, or more, even bother to do a quick internet search to see if the material ‘Keith Stride’ submitted for publication was even original?

            When ‘Stride’ veers into discussing the Peter Sutcliffe case it includes the following:

            (pg 44)
            Sonia Szurma was Peter Sutcliffe's regular Saturday night date and his serious girlfriend. In fact, she was the only girlfriend anyone had seen him with. He put her on a pedestal and spoke to work colleagues regularly about her. However, she had been spotted by his brother Mick with an Italian boy who was a local ice-cream salesman. Sutcliffe, feeling betrayed and utterly devastated, decided to confront her, but Sonia refused to answer any of his questions about the situation, or whether their relationship was over or not. They argued fiercely and Sutcliffe left her to lick his wounds. He felt angered and humiliated, his already sense of low self-esteem getting the better of him. It has been suggested that Sutcliffe was impotent.
            That night, Sutcliffe decided to take his revenge by going with a prostitute. Perhaps it was way of trying to deal with his sexual issues. Driving up Manningham Lane, he went past the Royal Standard pub, and at a petrol station he saw a prostitute waiting for customers. Having confirmed she was "doing business", they agreed on a price of £5.

            Coincidentally, Trevor Marriott in his book ‘The Evil Within’ contains the exact same sentences:

            The events that it was later suggested turned Sutcliffe against prostitutes went back to when he had first started dating Sonia Szurma. She had been his regular Saturday night date and serious girlfriend. However, Sutcliffe’s brother Mick had spotted her with an Italian boy who was a local ice-cream salesman. Sutcliffe, feeling betrayed and utterly devastated, decided to confront her, but Sonia refused to answer any of his questions about the situation, or whether their relationship was over or not. That night, Sutcliffe decided to take his revenge by going with a prostitute. Perhaps it was way of trying to deal with his sexual issues. Driving up Manningham Lane, he went past the Royal Standard pub, and at a petrol station he saw a prostitute waiting for customers. Having confirmed she was "doing business", they agreed on a price of £5.

            As many of you are aware Mark Ripper wrote an article in Ripperologist magazine 132 about the similarities between a chapter from Trevor Marriott’s book ‘The Evil Within’-concerning the serial killer William MacDonald- with the already published works of Paul B. Kidd, specifically from an essay by Kidd on the now defunct Crime Library website and in Kidd's book Never to be Released.

            What’s puzzling is how ‘Keith Stride’ and Trevor Marriott can both use sentences identical to Canadian Yorkshire Ripper researcher Keith Brannen, who has been operating his website on the Yorkshire Ripper case for nearly 20 years.



            EVENTS LEADING UP TO ATTACK: "THE PROSTITUTE INCIDENT"
            Sonia Szurma was Peter Sutcliffe's regular Saturday night date and his serious girlfriend. However, she had been spotted by his brother Mick with an Italian boy who was a local ice-cream salesman. Sutcliffe, feeling betrayed and utterly devastated, decided to confronted her, but Sonia refused to answer any of his questions about the situation, or whether their relationship was over or not.
            That night, Sutcliffe decided to take his revenge by going with a prostitute. Driving up Manningham Lane, he went past the Royal Standard pub, and at a petrol station he saw a prostitute waiting for customers. Having confirmed she was "doing business", they agreed on a price of £5.
            "I thought I would have intercourse with the prostitute, but I changed my mind when it got to the stage where we had got to do it. We were on the way to her place and were talking and I realised what a coarse and vulgar person she was. We were practically there and I realised I didn't want anything to do with her. Before getting out of the car I was trying to wriggle out of the situation, but I felt stupid as well."

            Unless it is revealed that Keith Brannen, who is supposedly living in Canada and has been singularly interested in the Yorkshire Ripper case for decades, is the person writing under the name Keith Stride, then it appears as though Keith Stride has copied Brannen’s website’s content without attribution. I suppose there is a possibility that Brannen copied from Trevor, but given what we know of other parts from ‘The Evil Within’, and the added fact that Brannen’s website had been operating since the year 2000, Trevor can explain the coincidence of his book and Brannen’s website containing matching content.



            JM

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            • #36
              Good work Jon and whoever else contributed to these findings.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                Good work Jon and whoever else contributed to these findings.
                Hi Howard. No contributors.
                It was all easily searched via Google.

                JM

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                • #38
                  Well spotted, Jon.

                  The identity of ‘Keith Stride’ becomes even more intriguing.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
                    Well spotted, Jon.

                    The identity of ‘Keith Stride’ becomes even more intriguing.
                    Not guilty


                    Phil
                    from 1905...to 19.05..it was written in the stars

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                    • #40
                      By the way, I did ask Trevor if he was Keith Stride even though I realized Trevor Marriott would write a Jospeh Barnett suspect chapter using a pseudonym a long time after hell freezes over.
                      Trevor denied ever having heard of Keith Stride, and I see no reason to doubt that.

                      JM

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                      • #41
                        Stupidity

                        Not only is plagiarism a reprehensible deed....but in our thing, its frankly stupid, since all of us read the works on the market and some more so than others. We may not read them all, individually, but someone will read it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                          Not only is plagiarism a reprehensible deed....but in our thing, its frankly stupid, since all of us read the works on the market and some more so than others. We may not read them all, individually, but someone will read it.
                          As you say, How, direct plagiarism in this field is rather stupid. Unacknowledged use of others’ research or ideas, though, is not always so easy to spot.

                          I once read that in the field of cartography there is something called ‘map spoiling’: deliberate errors being included on maps to protect the copyright of original survey material.

                          We should keep an eye out for someone repeating the errors of earlier authors or researchers without acknowledging them.

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                          • #43
                            It's remarkable that nobody has come forward to say who 'Keith Stride' is. What's the mystery?

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                            • #44
                              Are we witnessing the birth of Keithology?

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                              • #45
                                Surely if Scott can solve this mystery it will guarantee his long overdue Lifetime Achievement Award.

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