The Missing Evidence - New Ripper Documentary

[Christer Holmgren]

Christer :
Nina and I enjoyed the presentation....you came across very well, by the way.

That´s good to hear, Howard - thank you so much for the kind words!

[Christer Holmgren]

That rather depends on the information Scobie had at his disposal, Fish. If I remember correctly, Scobie was leafing through a chunky dossier in the documentary... was that for just for the cameras, or was it a casefile of some description?

Do you really think that Scobie commented on this, laying his own reputation in the balance, without knowing what he spoke of? Do you see that as a possibility, even?

I was not there when Scobie was spoken to. All I can say is that Sam Taplin said that Scobie went through the material relating to the case.

Sam also remarked upon how quickly Scobie was able to take in very much information and process it.

Maybe that can go to form an idea that Scobie díd not spend enough time with the material, and rushed through it without understanding it...?

[Christer Holmgren]

I've watched it twice already and Mrs B is starting to suspect I have a thing for Christer.

Gary

Shhhhh!!!

[Big Jon]

Jon Rees...

Would you please click on the link and let me know if it works ?
Thanks !

Works fine for me.

[Howard Brown]

Thanks Jonny !

[Robert Linford]

Fish, my mention of Swedish was a joke.

I can only go on the natural interpretation of what I read. If I see the word 'we' then I take it that I am reading of more than one person. If I see phrases like 'in his company' then I take it that two people were together.
Now of course the inquest reports may be conflicting. Some of them may be wrong. But I can only go on what seems to me to be the natural meaning.

The question of how many people have made the same interpretation as me, is ultimately unimportant. At the inquest there was only one form of words used - i.e. what was actually said - and the police were there to hear it. They had no particular reason to feel benevolent towards Crossmere and Paul, whose comments either at the inquest or in the Press raised certain questions about the conduct of Mizen. They were in an ideal position to get to the truth of the matter, and the fact is, neither man is heard from again.

Yes, I'm happy to drop the discussion. Good luck with your theory, Fish.

[Mr. Poster]

I havent seen the thing yet (I cannot access dropbox at work) but hopefully will tonight.

Im no Lechmere expert but want to ask to what extent "Cross" can be considered an alias at all (seeing that, as far as I understand it, his giving of the "wrong" name is being used against him)?

If he had adopted "Cross" as his name around the time his mother did, he must have been only around 10 or 11 at the time.

How long do you have to use a name before it actually becomes your name (ie. the one you give when asked)?

If he had been "Cross" since he was 10, then he had been using "Cross" for nigh on 30 years at that point (1888) potentially?

Elton John is not surely Elton John on his birth, death and marriage certifcates but one would hardly accuse him of subterfuge should he give his name as Elton John when asked by a policeman (and Im not accusing Elton John of appearing anywhere near dead persons)?

p

[Robert Linford]

Goodbye Mary K
Though I never knew you at all....

[Edward Stow]

Mr P my recommendation is that you watch it first, and check the readily available information about his use of surnames.

[Mr. Poster]

Will do...Im actually downloading from the other site that was provided now.

To which I have access at work...

Im really looking forward to looking at this.

p

[Paul Colwell]

I presume that this has been discounted before, but I thought I'd post it anyway. From Jack the Ripper: From the Cradle to the Grave By Peter Rutt:

[Lynn Cates]

source

Hello Paul. Thanks for posting that. Interesting.

Does the author give a source/s?

Cheers.
LC

[Mr. Poster]

Is that book not a novel?

ie. a fiction?

Saying Corss had greasy stubble is like saying Kelly had a twinkle in her eye.

Its hardly reliable?

p

[Paul Colwell]

Hi Lynn

To be honest I know little about it - only just came across it- it may even be a novel!

Found it here anyway...

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=c...chmere&f=false

[Mr. Poster]

I think we can discount Rutts book as a reliable source of anything (except perhaps a good fictional read):

http://www.spookyisles.com/2013/08/p...seminal-story/

Peter Rutt’s “Jack the Ripper” Offers New Take on Seminal Story

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In his new historical novel “Jack the Ripper: From the Cradle to the Grave” (published by AuthorHouse), author Peter Rutt tackles one of the most popular and enduring horror mysteries of British culture: Jack the Ripper.
Rutt’s protagonist, George, does not live an easy life, but it’s not until his wife is unfaithful that he fully becomes the Ripper – murdering a number of women in a particularly gruesome way as he tries to numb his pain. The story is written from the point of view of George’s wife, who keeps a secret diary of his actions.