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  • Jack's Jack Poll: Where did he get his money?

    How do you think JtR supported himself? That title should get some people's attention. he-he
    58
    Criminal enterprise
    3.45%
    2
    Begging
    1.72%
    1
    Supported by family
    5.17%
    3
    Charity or dole
    0.00%
    0
    Regular job
    63.79%
    37
    Temporary or workhouse jobs
    17.24%
    10
    Independently wealthy
    1.72%
    1
    Pension
    0.00%
    0
    Gambling
    0.00%
    0
    Another please post answer
    6.90%
    4

  • #2
    Another could be something the likes of Scrap collecting or Living off the land/scrounging.

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    • #3
      I see "regular job" has jumped out to 4 votes already, and I can only go along with that as well - it's been discussed before that it's likely JTR wasn't from the lowest of the low groups himself, and if anything, the days/dates of the murders (holidays/weekends) support the theory of his being occupied regularly.....though he might well have fallen on hard times shortly before the murders started for one reason or another.

      Cheers,
      Adam.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Stan Reid View Post
        How do you think JtR supported himself?
        Crutch? Peg leg?
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        • #5
          I suppose pimping or even male prostitution (not necessarily being homosexual himself) are possible "criminal enterprises"

          With him wandering the streets practically all night, I suspect he had little money, if any at all, so I voted for an infrequent job

          There's always the idea that he worked regularly and so only attacked toward the weekends, but I'm not so sure

          I get the feeling he was on the same social level as his victims

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nemo View Post
            I suppose pimping or even male prostitution (not necessarily being homosexual himself) are possible "criminal enterprises"

            With him wandering the streets practically all night, I suspect he had little money, if any at all, so I voted for an infrequent job

            There's always the idea that he worked regularly and so only attacked toward the weekends, but I'm not so sure

            I get the feeling he was on the same social level as his victims
            If he was on the same social level as his victims that would certainly enable him to blend in. Also he probably would have had the local knowledge needed to make a clean getaway. The murders having occurred around the weekend might as you say indicate that he had a job during the week.

            The pimping idea of course has come up in regard to whatever George Hutchinson might have been doing on the night of the Kelly murder.

            Chris
            Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
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            Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stan Reid View Post
              Another could be something the likes of Scrap collecting or Living off the land.
              How about Jack of All Trades?

              Chris
              Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
              https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

              Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
              Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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              • #8
                He could have been a beggar.
                On a good day beggaring can be quite a profitable profession, certainly enough to by drink and offer money for sex.
                He certainly would go unnoticed and would have been well known to the local ladies, in fact if he was not too abusive they might have been on speaking terms with him.

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                • #9
                  A hard,tedious gig where he wasn't appreciated for his talents and squandered 35 years at.....oh wait, that's me.

                  I'd guess as a Jack of all trades or in a steady position where he may not have been prominent.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chris G. View Post
                    How about Jack of All Trades?

                    Chris
                    Yes, I'd think that would fit into Temporary . . jobs.

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                    • #11
                      A look at the Charles Booth poverty maps show that while Whitechapel/Spitalfields were largely slum areas, they perhaps were not quite to the extent that has been depicted in the last 120 years. Even in these poor suburbs, there were pockets of "better off" people, and that's where I suspect that JTR might have come from - the majority of witness descriptions and other factors (i.e. being recognised by his own people if he was a costermonger) seem to go along with this.

                      So that might be a good starting point.

                      Cheers,
                      Adam.

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                      • #12
                        I think he was the night soil man.

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                        • #13
                          What is the "Another" vote for specifically?

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                          • #14
                            He had to be a 'Jack of all trades'... a butcher, doctor, seaman, clergy, hairdresser, carman, wealthy slummer, private detective, morgue attendent, Duke of Clarence... or was it the Duke of Earl... This guy did everything.
                            Best Wishes,
                            Cris Malone
                            ______________________________________________
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cris Malone View Post
                              He had to be a 'Jack of all trades'... a butcher, doctor, seaman, clergy, hairdresser, carman, wealthy slummer, private detective, morgue attendent, Duke of Clarence... or was it the Duke of Earl... This guy did everything.
                              How did he ever find the time to kill?

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