Thomas Fogarty

[Gary Barnett]

Did you see this one Gary on GRO ?

Birth

Fogarty Thomas ..1856 Sept Qtr ... Whitechapel...

Mum maiden name Brian Vol 01C Page 352


Pat......

Hi Pat,

Thanks for that. I had found him, I have a copy of his birth cert. He was born in the WU Infirmary. The age is a couple of years out for our man and his father’s name is wrong.

[Gary Barnett]

Birth Cert

It looks like our man:

[Gary Barnett]

I am working on the timeline and intend to post it in sections to reflect the stages of Fogarty’s life: boy/soldier/blind beggar/asylum inmate.

‘Boy’ would have felt incomplete without a birth cert, which I believe we now have, even though the date of birth it gives is slightly at odds with his baptism record.

I would also like to understand the ‘Frogerty’ alias on the Habitual Criminals Register. Was there another conviction under that name in 1871, between the Feb and Dec theft convictions?

A trip to the LMA may be required to clarify that matter.

[Robert Linford]

Congratulations Gary.

[Gary Barnett]

Congratulations Gary.

The ‘Welsh’ surname is very interesting. I had Welsh/Walsh/Welch ancestors living nearby at the time. James, the Dublin-born soap boiler and his wife Ellen...

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I don’t think I should look for a possible connection until I’ve got Foggy’s timeline sorted out.

[Robert Linford]

I've found an Ellen Walsh marrying a Daniel Driscoll at Kilmacabea, Cork 24th Feb 1838.

[Gary Barnett]

I've found an Ellen Walsh marrying a Daniel Driscoll at Kilmacabea, Cork 24th Feb 1838.

I think Foggy’s mum was born in Ireland around 1825 (36 in 1861).

[Robert Linford]

Ah, wrong one then.

[Debra Arif]

Well done finding the Forgety certificate, Gary. Missed it earlier.

[Gary Barnett]

Well done finding the Forgety certificate, Gary. Missed it earlier.

It’s a name that lends itself to variants, but even so, Forgeteg is a bit of a stretch.

The DOB’s a bit odd, 22/8 rather than the 12/6 of the baptism record, but it’s got to be him.

BTW, I see Mango books are advertising the release of the A-Z in 2020. Has that fact been posted on here? Congrats to you, Paul and Sean on completing it.

[Robert Linford]

Yes, well done to all.


Debs, hope you don't mind my asking : is that a young David Bowie in your avatar?

[Gary Barnett]

Yes, well done to all.


Debs, hope you don't mind my asking : is that a young David Bowie in your avatar?

And is that a puppy on his head?

[Robert Linford]

That would make it a Diamond Dog.

[Debra Arif]

It’s a name that lends itself to variants, but even so, Forgeteg is a bit of a stretch.

The DOB’s a bit odd, 22/8 rather than the 12/6 of the baptism record, but it’s got to be him.

BTW, I see Mango books are advertising the release of the A-Z in 2020. Has that fact been posted on here? Congrats to you, Paul and Sean on completing it.

I've seen a few Catholic records where the birth date is different on the baptismal record to the birth certificate.
One family I've been looking at this week had children registered with a birth date that was later than the date of their actual baptism!

We are still busy working on the A to Z!

[Debra Arif]

Yes, well done to all.


Debs, hope you don't mind my asking : is that a young David Bowie in your avatar?

Robert, it's "Sequah." I have been trying to find out the identity of this particular "Sequah" but haven't managed to yet. I came across several photographs of him in an archive and was intrigued by his youth and all that amazing hair. He'd have been better off selling Tatcho rather than puling teeth and curing rheumatism.