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  • Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post
    "I think this was a blessing from God that I caught it. This was a blessing in disguise," Trump said, adding that his use of the medication from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc had allowed him to experience first-hand how effective it could be.
    The Regeneron treatments probably were a blessing, though not necessarily from God...provided one could afford them. According to The Guardian, the full regime might run upwards of $375,000 U.S., though other reports claim they are significantly lower.

    "Monoclonal antibody treatments approved over the last 20 years cost an average of $96,731, according to a study in the Global Journal on Quality and Safety in Healthcare. Trumpís treatment with them would probably cost even more than that, because he took the equivalent of more than three doses of Regeneronís treatment. So quadruple the cost, because for most medicines, you canít buy a partial dose. Thatís $386,924."

    My skeptical mind is still wondering if Trump is working an 'angle.' The CEO of Regeneron Pharmaceuticals is a member of Trump's golf club. Their stock shot up over 4%. It's also reported they were given a $450 million dollar government contract.

    The Lincoln Project Republicans are having fun with it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAEtkjDO3k

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    • Originally posted by R. J. Palmer View Post
      My skeptical mind is still wondering if Trump is working an 'angle.' The CEO of Regeneron Pharmaceuticals is a member of Trump's golf club. Their stock shot up over 4%. It's also reported they were given a $450 million dollar government contract.
      Trump was a shareholder until three years ago:

      www.ft.com/content/70672ed3-bf66-4c14-8392-076d0c503558
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

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      • The Three...

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Bellends.html

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        • London/Essex are moving up to Tier 2 at the weekend. That?s my mad social whirl out of the window.

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          • THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS
            Americans Are Dying In The Pandemic At Rates Far Higher Than In Other Countries

            By JASON BEAUBIEN, National Public Radio


            U.S. coronavirus rates. National Public Radio

            During this pandemic, people in the United States are dying at rates unparalleled elsewhere in the world.

            A new report in the Journal of the American Medical Association finds that in the past five months, per capita deaths in the U.S., both from COVID-19 and other causes, have been far greater than in 18 other high-income countries.

            "It's shocking. It's horrible," says Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a professor of health policy and medical ethics at the University of Pennsylvania and one of the authors of the study.

            "The United States really has done remarkably badly compared to other countries," he says. "I mean, remarkably badly."

            The study looks at per capita death rates in 2020 in 18 countries with populations larger than 5 million people and per capita gross domestic product levels above $25,000 per year. It breaks out deaths attributed to COVID-19 and examines how total deaths in the U.S. are higher than normal this year. This so-called "all-cause" mortality takes into account fatalities that may have been due to the coronavirus but were never confirmed or were due to other factors such as people not seeking medical care during the crisis.

            Overall deaths in the United States this year are more than 85% higher than in places such as Germany, Israel and Denmark after adjusting for population size. Deaths in the U.S. are 29% higher than even in Sweden, "which ignored everything for so long," Emanuel says. Sweden made a point of refusing to order strict social restrictions and never went in to a full lockdown. "We have 29% more mortality than we should have if we'd followed Sweden's path and Sweden virtually did nothing."

            Even looking just at confirmed COVID-19 deaths, the number of people dying since May 10 ? again after adjusting for population size ? is on average 50% higher than every other country in the study. In addition, the rate people are dying in the U.S. has stayed far above everywhere else. Emanuel says the current elevated mortality rates are important because they eliminate the chaotic early months of the pandemic when testing, treatment and reporting varied dramatically around the globe.

            The rate of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. since June 7 is 27.2 per 100,000 people. In contrast, in Italy, the death rate is down to 3.1 per 100,000.

            "It's not like Italy has some secret medicine that we don't," Emmanuel says. "They've got the same public health measures we've got. They just implemented them effectively and we implemented them poorly." If the U.S. had managed to keep its per capita death rate at the level of Italy's, 79,120 fewer Americans would have died.

            This study is important for illustrating just how bad the death rate from COVID-19 has been in the U.S. compared with in other countries, says Theo Vos, a professor at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle.

            "The U.S. is in the company of a few other countries with very high rates of deaths assigned to COVID," says Vos who was not involved in the study. "Only Belgium looks worse." But he points out that once you look past the initial phase of the outbreak, the U.S. ends up looking worse than Belgium.

            "Early on in the epidemic, many countries had a lack of testing possibilities. And a lot of deaths occurred early on where there was no formal diagnosis," he says. "So Belgium decided 'we're going to count all of them.' While in other countries like the Netherlands or the U.K. and the U.S. quite a few deaths have not been recognized as COVID."

            He says this is why looking at overall deaths since the start of the pandemic, not just official COVID-19 deaths, is important. On that measure, the U.S. is now consistently reporting roughly 25% more deaths than these other wealthy nations.

            Vos is from the Netherlands, and even though he works for the University of Washington, he recently moved back. He says looking at how death rates are changing over time is important because this pandemic is far from over.

            "I now live in a country that's seeing the biggest increase in the number of cases of almost any place in the world currently," he says. Second waves of infections are hitting many places in Europe right now including France, Spain, Belgium and the U.K. Vos expects this to get even worse as more people spend more time indoors in the colder months.

            He says there has also been a lot of complacency in Europe. "Here in the Netherlands, there is an appalling low acceptance of masks," he says. "Only in the last week, I've started seeing other people in the supermarket wearing a mask. I used to be the only one."

            So while the U.S. death rates so far have been much higher than most other wealthy countries, Vos says, that could change as this pandemic continues to ebb and surge in various parts of the world.

            https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ther-countries
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            • I wonder what percentage of elderly people constitute American Covid deaths.
              In my county ( yes, I actually own it) the statistics for Covid deaths among people in assisted living facilities is 92.5 per cent of all county Covid deaths.
              If this is accurate, then the rank and file in Montgomery County, who aren't hospitalized and are out and about every day, aren't doing as badly as previously thought.
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              • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                I wonder what percentage of elderly people constitute American Covid deaths.
                In my county ( yes, I actually own it) the statistics for Covid deaths among people in assisted living facilities is 92.5 per cent of all county Covid deaths.
                If this is accurate, then the rank and file in Montgomery County, who aren't hospitalized and are out and about every day, aren't doing as badly as previously thought.
                Where I along with the Maybricks lived in the leafy southern suburbs of Liverpool -- Aigburth/Mossley Hill -- was one of the hotspots in Northwest England this past Spring, because of the large number of care homes in the area. Liverpool has just gone on strict lockdown again, as you may know, and I assume that the numbers of cases and deaths due to coronavirus are once again high there for the same reason.

                https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/14/live...-backlash.html
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                • Now, I don't know enough to know whether the following study is legitimate or iffy, but it is being suggested that a major risk factor for severe Covid-19 is inherited from the Neanderthals.

                  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3

                  "A recent genetic association study identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure after infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). A separate study (COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative)2 comprising 3,199 hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and control individuals showed that this cluster is the major genetic risk factor for severe symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization. Here we show that the risk is conferred by a genomic segment of around 50 kilobases in size that is inherited from Neanderthals and is carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe."

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                  • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                    I wonder what percentage of elderly people constitute American Covid deaths.
                    In my county ( yes, I actually own it) the statistics for Covid deaths among people in assisted living facilities is 92.5 per cent of all county Covid deaths.
                    If this is accurate, then the rank and file in Montgomery County, who aren't hospitalized and are out and about every day, aren't doing as badly as previously thought.
                    A high percentage of deaths globally and in the U.S. is in older people. Risk of death increases at ages 60 and over and is particularly noted in folks over 75. www.worldometers.info is a great source regularly updated.

                    Respectfully, it looks to me the population health information Chris G. shared a couple posts below, is a roundup of information and guesswork using too many factors to reach any valid conclusions.
                    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                    • Originally posted by R. J. Palmer View Post
                      Now, I don't know enough to know whether the following study is legitimate or iffy, but it is being suggested that a major risk factor for severe Covid-19 is inherited from the Neanderthals.

                      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3

                      "A recent genetic association study identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure after infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). A separate study (COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative)2 comprising 3,199 hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and control individuals showed that this cluster is the major genetic risk factor for severe symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization. Here we show that the risk is conferred by a genomic segment of around 50 kilobases in size that is inherited from Neanderthals and is carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe."
                      I have seen this information but wonder about several things. How sure is science that ANYONE actually has Neanderthal genes? Not so long ago there was information seemingly debunking this finding.

                      This gene cluster however is a very important finding. As I have said many times, severe, mostly 'unknown' viruses have been raising havoc for years and it is time medical science started investigating deeply. The fairly recent finding that Coxsackie virus causes Type 1 diabetes should have been the alert to declare war on viruses!
                      The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                      • Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
                        I have seen this information but wonder about several things. How sure is science that ANYONE actually has Neanderthal genes? Not so long ago there was information seemingly debunking this finding.
                        It's complicated, but I've never heard of any legitimate geneticist disputing this. There is Neanderthal DNA in our genome. There is also Denisovan DNA in some Asian populations.

                        So, on some level, there was interbreeding.

                        But Neanderthal DNA is only in our nuclear DNA and not in our mDNA, so there are a lot of unknowns.

                        One theory is that Male Neanderthals breeding with 'Modern' Human Females could produce fertile off-spring, while Female Neanderthals mating with 'Modern' Human Males could not...!

                        https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence...et%20al%202015).

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                        • I?m fascinated by the legend(?) of the Yeti and I watched a documentary a few years back where it was said that the Sherpas of the Himalayas had a certain gene which enabled them to cope with low oxygen, a gene, it was suggested that may have come from interbreeding with a species of early humans that could have survived long enough to have entered the folklore of the area.

                          Probably a load of codswallop, but when it comes to the Yeti, science takes a back seat as far as I?m concerned. Of course they exist!

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                          • Originally posted by R. J. Palmer View Post
                            It's complicated, but I've never heard of any legitimate geneticist disputing this. There is Neanderthal DNA in our genome. There is also Denisovan DNA in some Asian populations.

                            So, on some level, there was interbreeding.

                            But Neanderthal DNA is only in our nuclear DNA and not in our mDNA, so there are a lot of unknowns.

                            One theory is that Male Neanderthals breeding with 'Modern' Human Females could produce fertile off-spring, while Female Neanderthals mating with 'Modern' Human Males could not...!

                            https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence...et%20al%202015).
                            I'm proud of my Neanderthal ancestors.



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                            • That's not a polite way to describe Tranmere Rovers supporters!

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                              • Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
                                That's not a polite way to describe Tranmere Rovers supporters!
                                I was thinking more of South Liverpool supporters.
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