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  • #46
    Washington state, with less than 10 cases but the first death in the U.S. from the virus, has declared a disaster. That gets more federal money into the state. Authorities say not to panic and not to exaggerate but politicians never let a good crisis go to waste.
    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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    • #47
      "There were 434 mass shootings in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article. This averaged 1.19 mass shootings per day. In these shootings, 1,643 people were injured and 517 died, for a total of 2,160 victims."

      This is a disaster.

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      • #48
        Someone commented about the extra large crowds out and about and someone else said Wal Mart was selling out of many items, especially face masks. (Which experts say likely provide no protection.)

        Not only out west, but here as well.
        That scourge of mankind....the gouger...is in full force too.
        Boxes of masks which used to cost 19 bucks now go for nearly 90.
        3M is working around the clock, three shifts, making masks.
        The local Home Depot, which is a pretty busy store, was out early last week. Its even hard to get them from Grainger.
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        • #49
          BTW, at least around here, Corona beer is made in Mexico

          Grupo Modela, which owns Corona, makes a far better Mexican beer ( original recipe brought over by Austrians ) called Modelo Negra . The Especial is pretty good too. Corona, whenever I drank it, gave me a headache like that bilge, Budweiser.

          Can't drink water from Mexico ( Montezuma's Revenge)....but the beer is sure good.
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          • #50
            My grandfather used to tell tales of how some liquors were made in Mexico. I think it was a native drink like "pulque" or a high octane agave elixir. He said agave leaves were squeezed in a press that was mule driven and mule juice--so the speak-- mixed with the agave juice.
            The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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            • #51
              Oregon's third case is in a small town about 80 miles north of my office. There does not seem to be a connection to anything, so what the heck? Fortuitously this patient attended a middle school basketball championship in this small town. What could possibly go wrong? (sarcasm) Patient is hospitalized in Walla Walla, Washington.
              The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
                Oregon's third case is in a small town about 80 miles north of my office. There does not seem to be a connection to anything, so what the heck? Fortuitously this patient attended a middle school basketball championship in this small town. What could possibly go wrong? (sarcasm) Patient is hospitalized in Walla Walla, Washington.

                Just about the only reassuring thing about this virus is that, according to the WHO analysis of data from China, it is rare for children to be infected, and extremely rare for children to infect adults.

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                • #53
                  The nearest case to me in Devon is a pupil at a school in Brixham, who recently returned from Italy. Don't know what age the pupil is, but as Chris reports, it looks like younger children are the least likely to become infected, which is indeed reassuring for all concerned.

                  I read that a certain percentage of people who were infected in China, and since made a full recovery, have tested positive again. So nobody is sure how long immunity will last for the average, previously infected person, or how many will go on to catch it a second time. However, I understand the symptoms get less severe, with similar viruses when caught more than once. So fingers crossed...

                  ...and frequently washed!

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                  • #54
                    There haven't been any known cases of this virus in our area, but......

                    I stayed home today because I have some of the same symptoms I had 2 months ago. Took a week to ten days to recover. Sucks getting older.
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                    • #55
                      The case near here is a fellow who worked at Wild Horse casino near Pendleton, Oregon. A few weeks ago I posted about floods in that area--but messed up all the links so Howard should feel free to delete--which inundated Pendleton in fairly deep water. So I am sure that is a disaster area.

                      Wild Horse casino, about six miles out of town on tribal land (Native American) is on higher ground. Lots of people go to the casino but I do not know the demographics on people who go there. Casinos may allow smoking indoors and Wild Horse does so people who want to recreate and smoke go there. There is an air filtration system that removes all smoke and hopefully all viruses.

                      The casino is now shut down while they disinfect everything.

                      The man who is ill is in Walla Walla hospital so he must be really sick since lots of people who have gotten sick but not desperately so, have been told to quarantine at home. This patient's casino job did not involve meeting the public.

                      Lots of people from the area where I have my office, go to the casino. (Memo to self: NO shopping in the area.) Fortunately my biggest reason for being here is springtime yard work. No interactions with people.

                      As Caroline mentioned, children are not hard hit with the virus. For instance there are no child deaths under age 10. People over 65 are hit hardest as well as males. There is some discussion about why males are hit harder but it appears there may be a viral receptor site in the testes as well as the kidneys. (Are women's ovaries spared? Hopefully.)

                      BUT=> There are not enough official test kits for sick people. No way is the general population getting tested in order to know who may be infected but asymptomatic. This is certainly something to consider when Italy claims no idea about the source of their outbreak plus, why the [expletive] would a case pop up in tiny Weston, Oregon, needing hospitalisation in Walla Walla? (Point here, Walla Walla hospitals are larger and more equipped. Apparently Pendleton is not going to touch this mess.)

                      There have been lots of false negatives from the approved tests so they are probably better than nothing but they do not sound very effective. It seems possible that children and young people who show no symptoms might be very able to spread the disease. Also considering children and older people, I wonder if children fare better because of past exposure to SARS or because parents may have developed an immune reaction to SARS in the previous outbreak of that one? Perhaps older peoples' immune systems did not develop proper antibodies to that corona virus yet they were able to pass on advantages to offspring?
                      The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                      • #56
                        Looks like we’re knackered guys
                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51540981
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                        • #57
                          I posted one of those percentage breakdowns from www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ several pages back and commented about the high death rates under certain circumstances. Chris Phillips made an informative reply that better explained what I tried to say and I will defer to his better knowledge.

                          However in a demographic breakdown, the death rate among males over 65 and all people over 80, the percentage is horrible.

                          Since someone on YouTube who was apparently bored, just told me I am stupid, I will be careful how I word the next bit of information. One severely frightening thing about the new virus, IMO, is its possible affinity for the kidneys. According to some sources*, some of the survivors now need kidney transplants. Further, some sources have claimed, admittedly with little scientific proof, that the COVID-19 virus may have receptor sites in kidneys and MALE reproductive organs.

                          It is one thing to think a respiratory virus could cause fatal pneumonia and another to think you might not have functioning kidneys after 'recovery'. My kidneys are healthy and I want to keep it that way!

                          *(I know I could be more effective by providing links but half the links I try to provide fail so I generally spare everyone.)
                          The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                          • #58
                            Overheard in Eagleville : "Yes, Nina, I know the 80+ figures look daunting, but I'll be fine. I'm not a coroner."

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                              Overheard in Eagleville : "Yes, Nina, I know the 80+ figures look daunting, but I'll be fine. I'm not a coroner."
                              Cute! I don't think many of us here are in the very young age groups so perhaps we will all die off and that author, what's-her-name, will get to inherit Ripperology and make up all new "facts" for the Twenty-first Century history revisionists.

                              (One more reason to teach my bird dog to hunt for/sniff out elk and deer antlers and take to the hills for a while. Lots of one antlered deer and elk are floating around just now.)
                              The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                              • #60
                                Our local supermarket shelves have been completely cleared of anti-bac hand sanitiser, handwash, wipes etc. But I managed to get two large bags of Tetley tea bags - 920 bags in total, so we should be ok for a week or two.

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