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  • Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
    We have long memories:

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    I had an uncle who was a talented footballer and who knew a lot of the WHU players. I think he had a trial there, not sure that he was ever signed up, though. His promise of a career was ended through a serious injury, but he still kept in touch with the likes of Moore and Peters.

    On one occasion when some of our American relatives came over there was a family do, and when I arrived I immediately noticed a football on the dining table nestling among the sausage rolls and egg and cress sandwiches. On closer inspection I saw it had been signed by the WHU team at the time (67/8). I couldn’t believe my luck. It had to be for me, surely?

    But no, it was for my American cousin, Robbie, who had never played football in his life. :-(
    BLAST!!!

    I had a similar reaction a couple of times as a boy when my parents showed attention to another child rather than to me. I was a coddled and spoiled only child and only grandchild (to my maternal Nanna and Grandad). I look back at my reactions in those childhood days with some shame!

    Cheers

    Chris

    Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
    https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
    Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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    • Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post
      For what it's worth, now that the UK has "corrected" its daily death numbers by including only those who died within 28 days of testing positive, a comparison of the estimates of infection rates in July from random testing with corrected death rates 2-3 weeks later would reduce the fatality rate to more like 0.4%, though with a lot of statistical uncertainty.


      It seems broadly consistent with previous findings that only perhaps a third who have had the infection will later test positive for antibodies. The big question is what degree of immunity those people may have.
      My last family member passed away in mid-2019. I had nursed this very old person for several years. A couple months before death, so much was going wrong with the patient that I greatly feared the future. I am sure a COVID infection would have killed this person. This person was going to die sooner rather than later but had COVID intervened, how much import would that give to the lethality of SARSCoV-2?

      In the U.S. it is said 55% of COVID deaths are in long term care homes. I used to work in places like that and know those patients have multiple, horrible conditions. One foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, as the old saying goes.

      Unfortunately the U.S. is in a presidential election year so who knows how much truth we are getting?

      I am not sure the death rate for COVID is so frightening but it is something new that can kill us. My biggest concern is long term, post infection sequelae as I have posted and commented many times.

      Concerning immunity, scientists always said we would never have a cure or vaccine for the 'common cold' because the virus, singluar, mutates frequently and immunity is short. At this time it is known more than one variety of virus causes the 'common cold' but some of these viruses are corona viruses.
      The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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      • Before COVID/ SARSCoV-2, there were rumors and articles about a 'killer cold' as in a 'common cold' that killed people. It's a little hard to find articles on this since COVID is definitely the new 'killer cold'.

        Anyway, a CNN article from 2007 discussed adenovirus causing the killer-cold, killing about 20% of those who became seriously ill, according to an Oregon doctor. Apparently Oregon had a huge outbreak. I managed to avoid it.

        Most patients, as is said with COVID now, got regular colds and recovered without problems. So there were general warnings among doctors to be aware, etc.

        Interestingly there has also been information on a form of bronchitis that, for some reason, causes lengthy infection in women. Even doctors admit there is such a thing.

        My point is, killer, or extremely damaging viruses have been circulating for a long time. It was interesting to see how the '07 adenovirus outbreak was handled. I do think we will see huge improvements in medicine following the COVID issue. Doctors and scientists are finally paying attention to what has previously been thrown off as 'viral infection' from which 'normal' people will recover and 'abnormal'--translated mentally ill since 'normal' people get well and do not malinger-- people may not.
        The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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        • This is a "pop up" COVID-19 testing facility that opened up last week in the parking lot of a school (temporarily closed of course) not too far from where we live. I thought of being tested then but I need the test ahead of my second (right) being operated upon for cataract surgery Aug. 26, and if I had got it done last week it would have meant I couldn't have gone out Sunday for my usual run to get the newspaper for Donna nor my groceries shopping. So I am scheduled for the COVID test instead this afternoon with ChristianaCare where they tested me, negatively, earlier this month. Wish me luck.

          I have encouraged Donna and Lisa (D's sister with whom we now live in Delaware) to get tested because even if they don't have it, possibly the test might show they have the antibodies to show they did have it in the past few months. I rather think that is not the case as none of the three of us have shown symptoms, but you never know.

          Here's a trivia question for you, what U.S. TV series popularized the expression, "Up your nose with a rubber hose!"
          Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
          https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

          Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
          Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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          • NHS Heroes Mural in Larches, Preston by Tony Worrall Photography on Flickr

            Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
            https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

            Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
            Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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            • "Up your nose with a rubber hose"=. 'Happy Days', I think.

              If not, then, 'Welcome Back Kotter'.
              The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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              • Originally posted by Chris G. View Post
                Incidentally, in 1968,........ Of course the Reds of Liverpool were proud that "Sir" Roger Hunt was part of the World Cup winning team.
                Ah, 1968, yes I remember it well.
                Where did Liverpool finish in the 68-69 season?,.... I can't quite remember...

                By the way my friend, looking forward to September 12th, you are the host.

                Jon S.
                Glory, Glory Leeds United!!!
                Regards, Jon S.
                "
                The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
                " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
                Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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                • Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post

                  My point is, killer, or extremely damaging viruses have been circulating for a long time. It was interesting to see how the '07 adenovirus outbreak was handled. I do think we will see huge improvements in medicine following the COVID issue. Doctors and scientists are finally paying attention to what has previously been thrown off as 'viral infection' from which 'normal' people will recover and 'abnormal'--translated mentally ill since 'normal' people get well and do not malinger-- people may not.

                  If we think COVID-19 is a problem, just wait and see what the ice has in store for us....


                  Ancient never-before-seen viruses discovered locked up in Tibetan glacier

                  https://www.livescience.com/unknown-viruses-discovered-tibetan-glacier.html


                  There are diseases hidden in the ice, and they are waking up.
                  http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up


                  Welp, Scientists Found 28 New Virus Groups in a Melting Glacier

                  https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a30643717/viruses-found-melting-glacier/

                  Sleep well.....
                  Regards, Jon S.
                  "
                  The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
                  " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
                  Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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                  • Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
                    "Up your nose with a rubber hose"=. 'Happy Days', I think.

                    If not, then, 'Welcome Back Kotter'.
                    Welcome Back, Kotter. And there's a song about it that came out of the show. See this video: https://youtu.be/XOFd74VnHco



                    Yes, Jon, it's Liverpool versus Leeds United from Anfield on Saturday, September 12, the evening fixture of the day.
                    Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
                    https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

                    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                    Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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                    • A small randomised study in Spain has shown a strong beneficial effect of Vitamin D therapy for COVID-19 patients (only 2% of those given Vitamin D on admission to hospital went on to be admitted to intensive care, compared with 50% in the control group).
                      https://www.ippmedia.com/en/features...erapy-covid-19

                      Apparently quite a lot of people are at risk of Vitamin D deficiency, particularly those with darker skins and people who don't get much sunlight. Although as a vegetarian I take a vitamin supplement, I was surprised to find that it contained only half the recommended amount of vitamin D (and vegetarians don't get much vitamin D from their diet). That's comparing with the recommended amount in the UK. The recommendation in the USA is 50% higher for adults and 100% higher for over-70s!

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                      • Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post

                        Apparently quite a lot of people are at risk of Vitamin D deficiency, particularly those with darker skins and people who don't get much sunlight.

                        Vitamin D comes from exposure to sunlight, yet some people with dark skin are difficient in vitamin D?
                        How does that work?
                        Regards, Jon S.
                        "
                        The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
                        " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
                        Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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                        • Originally posted by Wicker Man View Post
                          Vitamin D comes from exposure to sunlight, yet some people with dark skin are difficient in vitamin D?
                          How does that work?

                          https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/q...n-d-deficiency

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                          • I think I posted the theory on this quite some time ago. African Americans and Hispanics have been hard hit with COVID and our government is busy screaming about racial disparities. It's an election year so what else could we expect?

                            Dark skin = more melanin, dark pigment, in the skin.

                            Dark skinned people tend to come from areas closer to the equator, places with lots more sun. Light skinned people have trouble in tropical sun and heat. That's why pith helmets were invented.....

                            That said, it is also said that anyone living north of Atlanta, Georgia (USA), never gets enough sunlight to make adequate levels of vitamin D. Imagine how much more difficult this is for dark skinned people whose ancestors likely came from tropical latitudes. Recent research indicates 62% of blacks and Hispanics are vitamin D deficient.

                            My own ancestry is completely north to central European. I have very pale skin and do go out in the sun. My vitamin D levels, without supplementation, are very low. I have traditionally lived in an area with 8 months of winter or nearly winter weather. Some of my white female friends have shown 0% on blood tests.

                            Vitamin D has been indicated as beneficial in treatment of COVID before now but the Spanish study is the first competent research to be published. Dr. John Campbell had an excellent video on this this week. He notes that Spanish doctors used calcifadiol which is the most bioavailable form of Vitmin D. Regular supplements have to be processed by the liver and it may take several days for the body to produce caldifadiol the body needs.
                            The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                            • Also, as mentioned in that report, it's possible that the specific mechanism by which COVID-19 causes severe illness has been identified - the so-called "bradykinin storm". If that turns out to be correct it may open the way to developing (other?) effective treatments:

                              https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipelin...he-coronavirus

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                              • Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
                                ...

                                That said, it is also said that anyone living north of Atlanta, Georgia (USA), never gets enough sunlight to make adequate levels of vitamin D.

                                And that's basically what I was alluding to. That a lack of sunlight makes everyone, that is every skin colour, difficient in vitamin D, not just dark skinned people.
                                Regards, Jon S.
                                "
                                The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
                                " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
                                Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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