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    Todd Henderson, Ripper suspect testifies in court
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    • Another thing that is similar is the racial stats. At that time, Atlanta was at least 40% black and yet most of the victims and killers were black.
      Jon A
      Jon...you'll recall newspaper accounts from Atlanta at the time of the Atlanta JTR murders suggesting that nothing was really out of the ordinary with those slayings.
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      • This victim's clothes are said to have been piled beside her outside in an alley.....

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        April 9, 1912
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        • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
          This victim's clothes are said to have been piled beside her outside in an alley.....

          Kane (Pa) Republican
          April 9, 1912
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          The initial Atlanta article on the murder makes no mention of the disrobing, the mutilations, or an organ being removed. The disrobing part has been confirmed by other newspapers, but the two others I think were false.
          The New York Times mentions a similar scene for the murder of Marietta Logan


          " ATLANTA, GA May 11-“Jack the Ripper” claimed his twentieth woman victim
          in Atlanta some time last night. Like the other nineteen victims he has slain in the
          last nine month (sic), she was a comely yellow girl and has not yet been
          identified.

          Her body was found this morning by a party of laborers in a secluded alley. The
          clothing had been removed and was piled nearby. Death was caused by two stabs
          in the neck, one of which cut the jugular vein. After these fatal stabs, the ripper,
          as in the case of the other nineteen girls, made other cuts on the body

          So far the detectives have been unable to find a clue to the slayer. The negroes,
          who are in a state of terror and try to keep their women off the street at night,
          have offered a large reward for the arrest of the murderer (“Another ripper”, 1912,
          p. 6).

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          • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
            This victim's clothes are said to have been piled beside her outside in an alley.....

            Kane (Pa) Republican
            April 9, 1912
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            The article makes a pivotal mistake. It claims that the Ripper mutilated all his victims, which he did not. The Atlanta Ripper was different from his London predecessor in that mutilation was not the focal point of his crime. Saucy Jack of London killed his victims, not simply for the joy of it, but for the sexual release that he received from the mutilations. Saucy Jack never harmed his victims besides cutting their throats.Whereas the Atlanta Ripper brutally beat many of his victims before cutting their throats. The Atlanta fiend waited after his crimes were famous to start mutilating his victims, as if he staging for a show.

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            • Chief of Police Beavers cuts detective force from 30-16.
              This action is surprising given the increase in murders, particularly, the Ripper ones.
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              • But depending on a breakdown of the workload (viz how many actual tasks there are to fulfil), the hours worked "off the books" by each man under each arrangement, and depending upon how much choice he got in selection, he might just possibly be proved right...particularly if the uniformed branch were conspicuously undermanned...I guess at this distance in time we'll never know unless the experiment ever took place!

                All the best

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                • Saucy Jack of London killed his victims, not simply for the joy of it, but for the sexual release that he received from the mutilations.
                  Is this not a little conjectural. The mutilations could, for example, derive from some form of ritual or deluded religious fervour, could they not?

                  Just a thought

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                  • Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
                    Is this not a little conjectural. The mutilations could, for example, derive from some form of ritual or deluded religious fervour, could they not?

                    Just a thought

                    Dave
                    You right, that is an alternate plausible theory. Bu given the some of the women were displayed, I think that the Ripper crimes were motivated by sexuality.
                    It could be both. Gary Ridegway said that he believed that what he was doing was just in the eyes of God, but there can be no doubt that his killings were sexual.

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                    • Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
                      But depending on a breakdown of the workload (viz how many actual tasks there are to fulfil), the hours worked "off the books" by each man under each arrangement, and depending upon how much choice he got in selection, he might just possibly be proved right...particularly if the uniformed branch were conspicuously undermanned...I guess at this distance in time we'll never know unless the experiment ever took place!

                      All the best

                      Dave
                      He did eventually reduce the detective load back to 16 detectives; a decision he was criticized for. That would be one of the issues at his trial for incompetence.
                      It's always a bad idea to reduce the detective force when one's city is in the midst of a serial killer's rampage. Serial killer investigation need a task force, sometimes as large as over 100 detectives to bring down the killer.
                      The Atlanta Child Murders had 106 investigators, including 33 federal agents on that case and the Yorkshire Ripper had over 120.
                      That being said, the Atlanta police force should accepted help. Outside detectives had volunteered their help, but they were refused.

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                      • Another Atlanta Serial Killer

                        Negroes fire five shots at A.H Horner. Shooting follows the brutal murder of Aaron Leftchez whose murder a $1,000 has been offered.
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                        • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                          Removed her heart !!!


                          Staunton (Va.) Spectator & Vindicator
                          November 24, 1911
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                          This case was Atlanta's Black Dahlia case. The woman in question, Mary Putnam had some things in common. Bot of them had troubled relationships with men in their lives, the Black Dahlia had a father who cared nothing for her. Mary Putnam was an abusive relationship. The Black Dahlia reported being afraid that some man was going to kill he, that she had been threatened. Mary Putnam's husband Green Putnam, threatened to kill her.
                          Both women had arrived in the cities of their deaths not long before they were killed, Dahlia came from Boston and Mary came from Lawrenceville, Georgia. Both women were living with other people at the time of their murders. Both women were grossly mutilated, particularly in the stomach area. Both of their cases were probably done by serial killers. Last but not least, both cases are unsolved.

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                          • Originally posted by Jonathan A View Post
                            November 1917.
                            Negress Found with Head Crushed.
                            Gruesome find in small residence on East Fair Street.
                            Another notorioius Jack the Ripper case has come to light. The Ripper cases figured prominently in the charges against Chief of Police, James Beavers, when he was first tried. On the very nnight that Beavers was reinstated, by the police borad of commisioners, "Jack" got busy, having been quiet after bEavers was deposed.
                            The body of Laura Blackwell, a negress, was found yesterday in her residence at 233 East Fair Street. The woman's throat was cut, her head crusshed, and most of her clothing destroyed by fire. Nothing else in the house was molested and no weight is given to the tehory that a burgular committed the murder. Detective Bass Rosser has been assigned to the case

                            This article incorrectly states that the Ripper was quiet after Beavers was deposed as chief. In fact two murders had occuredd in 1915 when Captain Mayo was Acting Chief.
                            It appears that this case was solved. The Atlanta Constitution lists the arrest and conviction of one John Brown in 1918
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                            • Originally posted by Jonathan A View Post
                              It appears that this case was solved. The Atlanta Constitution lists the arrest and conviction of one John Brown in 1918
                              Brown was convicted again in 1920
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                              • Studied Surgery

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                                Lexington, Kentucky
                                April 9, 1912
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