Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Element 6- Icons

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Element 6- Icons

    Top hat...cape...Gladstone bag....and the fog...
    To Join JTR Forums :
    Contact donston1[email protected]

  • #2
    Cobble stones and women in low-cut dresses and Ascot hats.

    Comment


    • #3
      Gas light.



      Lamplighter, Kensington, London, 1930s
      Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
      https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

      Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
      Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

      Comment


      • #4
        A large knife, glistening in the non-existent light.
        Thanks for your time,
        dusty miller

        Comment


        • #5
          Hansom cab.
          Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
          https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

          Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
          Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

          Comment


          • #6
            ....drawn by constipated horses, because there's never any crap on the cobbles.

            Comment


            • #7
              Yes, the best laxative for a horse in London is a home-cooked meal at Robert's house.

              I'm not sure I understand this thread, but if you want an 1888 symbol from Whitechapel, how about a good old Constable's whistle?

              Comment


              • #8
                Joe:

                In this particular section of the Forums, I'm trying to ( with the assistance of anyone else who wishes to pitch in ) establish a list of 'firsts' found in the WM...as well as things which are unique....such as the Ripper or WM being identifiable by the icons I listed ( Robert's aren't worth looking at...much like his cooking ).

                I can't think of another series of murders in which that particular series is identifiable and/or suggested by an icon...such as Gladstone bag...top hat and cape...or fog.

                If, and I mentioned it before....these 'firsts' or elements which I think are unique to these murders are not so special...please show me otherwise.
                To Join JTR Forums :
                Contact [email protected]

                Comment


                • #9
                  Ok, I'm getting the hang of it now.

                  I know one thing about the Whitechapel Murders that is quite unique. There has never been any other time when a person was escorted to a mortuary to identify a body, despite the fact that the person had never seen the corpse's face before. Lawende probably didn't desire to be known for that, but through no fault of his own, that's how the circumstances played out for him.

                  I guess that unique story isn't an "icon" of any sort, so it probably belongs on some other thread in this section. Carry on, gentlemen.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    The dive into the river. Specifically=> After the awful glut in Millers Court his brain gave way altogether...and he drowned himself.

                    Another icon depicted in drawings of the time was the fur trimmed coat. Hutchinson had said, coat trimmed with "astrachan" which sounds more elegant that several pictures folks provided here when I opined about astrakhan. Astrakhan coats of the time were rather rough looking. However artists of the day, such as in the cartoon of the skeleton attired as Jack, invented a nicely tailored long coat trimmed with something like fox fur. Surely such depictions lead us to think JtR was of a higher class.

                    Deer stalker hat is another icon. True, the man Mrs. Long saw/heard was said to be wearing one and another man of interest was also but we can't really assume the killer always wore one, if he ever wore one.

                    We could include red ink. And the very name Jack the Ripper.

                    How mentioned the Gladstone bag. Another similar item is the "parcel wrapped in newspaper" supposedly carried by the killer. A proper JtR suspect has to carry something in his hands it seems. Parcels or bags to pack his knives and harvested organs, I suppose.
                    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Hi Howard

                      I am surprised you haven't suggested this one, Howard!

                      Newspaper articles about the Ripper or that use the term "Jack the Ripper" in some way.

                      Although it isn't an icon or stereotypical about the case the same way that other well-known elements are, such as the top hat, the cape, and the Gladstone bag, etc.

                      Chris

                      Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
                      https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

                      Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                      Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Newspaper articles about the Ripper or that use the term "Jack the Ripper" in some way.
                        -CG-

                        Only problem with that is there were other killers who were mentioned from time to time comparatively with other murderers before the Whitechapel Murderers. An example would be The London Monster or the Ratcliffe Highway Murders...both brought up in comparison to the WM very early on ( after the Nichols murder)....so there was a precedent for that sort of thing.

                        For sure with no doubt.... more murderers have been compared to Jack The Ripper ( Rostov Ripper....Yorkshire Ripper....or 'these murders were the goriest since Jack The Ripper walked in Whitechapel')....than any other killer in history.
                        To Join JTR Forums :
                        Contact [email protected]

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                          Newspaper articles about the Ripper or that use the term "Jack the Ripper" in some way. -CG-

                          Only problem with that is there were other killers who were mentioned from time to time comparatively with other murderers before the Whitechapel Murderers. An example would be The London Monster or the Ratcliffe Highway Murders...both brought up in comparison to the WM very early on ( after the Nichols murder)....so there was a precedent for that sort of thing.
                          TRUE, Howard.

                          But nonetheless no murder or murder series has had the same pervasive influence on the world's press as have the Ripper murders, as you have well demonstrated in newspaper story after newspaper story right here at JtR Forums. This is something that the general public at large is ignorant about, and it's something they need to know.
                          Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
                          https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

                          Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                          Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            But nonetheless no murder or murder series has had the same pervasive influence on the world's press as have the Ripper murders, as you have well demonstrated in newspaper story after newspaper story right here at JtR Forums! This is something that the general public at large is ignorant about, and it's something they need to know.
                            __________________


                            No argument, Chris. Its just that there was a precedent of one series or one murderer being compared to JTR before JTR's name and infamy became what it has become.
                            To Join JTR Forums :
                            Contact [email protected]

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            X