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  • #16
    Now tossing 10 policemen off you in the middle of court? That's a real badass.

    Last ditch desparation, Tom...IMHO
    Final blows against the Bossman before the slammer.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
      Now tossing 10 policemen off you in the middle of court? That's a real badass.

      Last ditch desparation, Tom...IMHO
      Final blows against the Bossman before the slammer.
      No question about that, Howard. I just meant the strength it took to do that is pretty bad. I've never been able to throw more than 2 or 3 cops off me at a time.

      Yours truly,

      Tom Wescott

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      • #18
        Good one Tom !
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        • #19
          Hi Jon

          Yes I believe his mood changed at that point and I would ally it with rage

          His excuse for stabbing her was either that she was extortionat (!) or that she tried to bilk him

          He had treated her for a while but refused to go to a lodging house with her

          I think that is probably connected to his having been robbed/stripped in the past, almost certainly in "brothels" and I'm sure he suspected that the hooligans were connected with Alice Graham

          It's similar to when Sadler accused Coles of not helping him etc

          Howard has posted many examples of sailors in partcular being blatantly robbed and/or attacked in such a manner

          If you consider that he has just had a fight with hooligans and that a policeman, apparently quite roughly, took the woman away, at least to the other side of Commercial Rd, then when she returned to him, and he was alone with her, then in his mind perhaps the policeman could almost provide an alibi later

          Nobody knew he was with her at that moment, and he attacked her with other policemen close by, close enough to hear her screams

          Whatever was going through his mind he apparently threw her down in a court and stabbed her you know what

          He demonstrates a method of getting the woman on her back silently, at least for the first few vital seconds

          Her reaction time seemed quite slow to me as she thought she was being raped so she might have held on to her cachous for example

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          • #20
            I've seen a couple newspaper reports where an abused woman testifying against her BF at the Malborough Courts was attacked by him with a knife while in court. Apparently not an uncommon practice in Victorian times.


            Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
            I've never been able to throw more than 2 or 3 cops off me at a time.
            The most I've thrown off is 3 freestyle snowboarders. Those are small (5.8´´at most) but pretty agile. :-p

            (Before that there was some wrestling on the floor where we forced a guy to sniff someone else's socks. I think that might beat Grainger in perversity and savagery.)
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            Maria

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            • #21
              Hi Jon,

              The Ripper's MO was to say "Here, hold these for a sec..." and fill his victim's hands with cachous and grapes. Once distracted and with full hands, he would attack. Unfortunately, in Stride's case, he was interrupted and had to abandon his sweets. This is all fact, by the way, and not supposition. I have an unsourced newspaper report from Burt Bacharach, head of the vigilance committee.

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott

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