Great job, Howard. Thanks.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
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Emily Nowell - 1884 Prostitute Murder
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Thanks, Howard.
Hi Debs. What do you want to bet it was the reward that made that woman tell on Crispin. As for the hospital records, I just meant the nearest hospital and infirmary from the area where Emily worked.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
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No, I hadn't seen this case before,Tom.
Crispin was never a serious suspect,he was discharged by magistrates as there was no evidence against him at all apart from some gossip from a woman he'd had a conversation with about the case.
The problem with looking at hospital records is that we know where the crime occurred but not where the perpetrator lived. There were quite a few Infirmaries (where someone might go if they couldn't work) and hospitals in London and the records are un-indexed..
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Tom:
I agree that there might be some gold in them thar hospital records....that's good thinking.
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Hi Howard. Even tough handed guys have bony knuckles, and with the damage that Emily received, his hands would be bloodied and swollen, if not broken, regardless of his line of work. The reason I brought up his line of work is that even if he could withstand the pain of his injuries, an inability to earn income might have forced him to seek medical care.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
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Tom:
If the killer wasn't in a line of work where the condition of his hands ( toughness and durability ) weren't important, it would be easier to believe his hands were damaged from a fatal assbeating....not to discourage you. A clerk, pencil pusher, or worthless intellectual would be very likely to damage his mitts...not a man like me, for instance, whose hands are like steel ingots.
I think it would be a good thing to check into hospital records just the same.
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Originally posted by Debra Arif View PostThere was also a sailor named Crispin who came under suspicion but there was absolutley no evidence against him and the case was discharged.
I don't remember this case being mentioned in lists of unsolved cases before -could someone have been convicted years later?
But try to imagine beating a person to death with your fists while (or before/after) strangling them. And he had already given her money. His hand would have been sausage the next morning. Makes you wonder what kind of work he was in, because most men in that area needed their hands to work. I wonder if there's any listing for a man with a broken/damaged hand visited the infirmaries or hospitals in the week following this murder.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
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This one has its own thread....
Belfast News Letter
January 17, 1884
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Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
The first and only suspect in the case was Frederick James Harris, a carman, who had cohabitated with the victim for 7 weeks and had dated her for 6 months. He discovered the body. He had blood on his clothes, but this could have come from him handling the victim and washing the blood off her face.
I don't remember this case being mentioned in lists of unsolved cases before -could someone have been convicted years later?
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Tom:
When I get home today, I'll post all the ones I can find, if that's what you wanted.
Looking into the Illustrated Police News, its surprising to find nothing on this case, considering its right up the IPN's alley.
The murder, as you know, occurred on December 30th, 1883...
Here's our publishin' pals at the PIP ( Penny Illustrated Paper ) for a threadstarter....more to follow this afternoon.
Penny Illustrated Paper
January 12, 1884
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