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    Enumerated at Fort Rowner,Alverstoke Hampshire



    This link, courtesy of Dave (cogidubnus) on casebook http://www.victorianforts.co.uk/rga.htm shows that the Hants Artillery Militia were in training there in May 1881.

    Note in the census listing that included Edward Stanley there is also a serving militiaman who is aged 50.

    Fort Elson was also in the same enumeration parish in 1881.

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    Nice Debs ! Thanks for that information.
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    • #3
      Thanks How.
      I forgot to mention, the age of this Edward Stanley of the volunteer Hampshire militia given on the Ancestry transcription is 32 in 1881, that would make him 39 in 1888 which brings him well under the permitted upper age limit of 45, referenced by Simon Wood in his Ripperologist article-"One Lone maniac Too Many", Part Two-for a serving militiaman.
      This doesn't tally with press reports that give a guesstimate of Stanley's age at 47 but he may have lied to join the volunteers or perhaps looked much older than his years. Pensioned soldiers are noted in the listings.

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      • #4
        Debs:

        Very good point on the age of a character in the case study being over-estimated or under-estimated.
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        • #5
          The first page of the 1881 listings for Fort Rowner show the Officers and their regiment - Hants. Artillery militia




          Being a bricklayers labourer was a popular listed profession for the Hants. volunteers with a couple appearing on nearly every page. Stanley gave this as his occupation in 1888.

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          • #6
            coincidence

            Hello Debs. Thanks for posting this.

            And, of course, there HAD to be a Halse. (heh-heh)

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lynn Cates View Post
              Hello Debs. Thanks for posting this.

              And, of course, there HAD to be a Halse. (heh-heh)

              Cheers.
              LC
              I hadn't noticed that, Lynn. Well spotted.

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                Originally posted by Lynn Cates View Post
                Hello Debs. Thanks for posting this.

                And, of course, there HAD to be a Halse. (heh-heh)

                Cheers.
                LC
                I believe the name is Hulse not Halse. See below, from The Gazette, September 25, 1894.

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                • #9
                  Is nobody going to give an opinion on whether it's the Ted Stanley?

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                  • #10
                    Hi Debra,

                    On 1st April 1882 the Hampshire Artillery Militia became the Second Brigade Southern Division, Royal Artillery.

                    Regards,

                    Simon

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                    • #11
                      Debs:

                      From my p.ov., it seems as if it is the one and the same "pensioner".

                      Sorta kinda waiting for Simon to pop in, Debs....I'd wager others were too.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                        Hi Debra,

                        On 1st April 1882 the Hampshire Artillery Militia became the Second Brigade Southern Division, Royal Artillery.

                        Regards,

                        Simon
                        Hi Simon,
                        and that's the right regiment?...right?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                          Debs:

                          From my p.ov., it seems as if it is the one and the same "pensioner".

                          Sorta kinda waiting for Simon to pop in, Debs....I'd wager others were too.
                          Thanks for the input How. Simon popped in and out while I blinked.lol

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                          • #14
                            Hi Debra,

                            Right.

                            Regards,

                            Simon

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                            • #15
                              a or u

                              Hello Chris. Thanks.

                              Yes, could be either. Looked like an unclosed 'a' but could be a 'u.'

                              Cheers.
                              LC

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