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    As of September 25, 2021, there are 21 editions of the newsletter, The East River Echo available for Brownian researchers and interested parties alike.

    Since I cannot increase the upload capacity on the site at present, I can't share them here as most are over 2Mb in size.

    If people are interested in reading these informative ( pats own back) and brief newsletters....covering a wide range of this case's history, there are two ways at present to get yer mitts on 'em.

    One is by going to our The Carrie Brown File Facebook group....I've added one today ( the 21st featuring Prof. Dekle and his responses to a series of questions)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/4319...eric&ref=notif




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    The second is by going to our website, CarrieBrown.Net
    https://carriebrown.net/




    All Forums members are invited to participate or just view the FB group.....
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    Sample Echo....number 4
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      Updated today...Files are a a little too large for the Forums but are available if you join our group on Facebook

      https://www.facebook.com/groups/4319...g_dialog=false

      Or via email :
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      • #4
        Thanks for posting these How. I think I need a year off to catch up on this case.
        Regards

        Michael🔎


        " When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains no matter how improbable......is probably a little bit boring "

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        • #5
          Mike:

          It was back in late March or early April of 2020 that I came across the trial transcripts....and from that moment on up until today, I have spent approx.55- 60 hours per week reading, re-reading, and then re-reading again any Case report i could find...which is about everything, to be honest, that's available. Nina got me 'into it' 14 years ago...but because of my duties to the site, I sort of put it on the back burner. Wolf Vanderlinden put a semblance of structure to the newspaper reports he had access to in his seminal trilogy on the Case solely based on those newspaper reports. It influenced me and remains the series of articles I have read more than anyone else's in the last 20 years.

          You may need more than a year, Mike.....but I am, and I hope anyone else with ideas as well, always willing to help anyone who needs information.
          My sole goal at present is to get people at least half as interested as I am in the murder, trial, and the aftermath of this Case.
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            East River Echo Number 3
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              East River Echo Number 5
              List of 150 Characters Directly or Peripherally involved With The Case ( Charles Brennan, the employee of George Damon's who went with him to the Hotel isn't on the list.....he will be in a future, larger list)
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                East River Echo Number 4
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                    • #11
                      East River Echo Number 16
                      Frenchy's Friends

                      This is the article that Wolf Vanderlinden referred to in his WSJournal ( December 2017) article as the source for the Jenalli-as-Frenchy 2 claim he made in said article.

                      This chart for April 1891 I cobbled together gives the date of when Ali was released from jail
                      Notice the remark made in the NY Sun article which states Jenalli and his wife hadn't seen Ali for three weeks....which, by itself, removed Jenalli from contention as being Frenchy # 2.






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                      • #12
                        Before I forget, I noticed that a few of those who testified claimed that they had only seen Ali three times before the murder....and I think that also included the April 23-24 time frame.

                        Depending on what shift Fitzgerald was on, Ali is shown to have been in the Hotel 4 times in that one week alone. He, of course, claimed he had only seen him three times in total in the Coroner's Inquest report. He'd been working there approximately two and one half months at the time of Brown's murder.
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                        • #13
                          An example of the confusing reportage early on in the press. This from the Evening World on April 24th :

                          Fitzgerald's description fits Ali, not C. Kniclo. In fact, Fitzy didn't see C. Kniclo.
                          Jennings, the hotel proprietor who is referred to as a well respected businessman in a pair of Canadian and three upstate New York papers, wasn't in the room next door.
                          Fitzy didn't shove the door in or break it down. He used Corcoran's key.

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                            Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                            An example of the confusing reportage early on in the press. This from the Evening World on April 24th :

                            Fitzgerald's description fits Ali, not C. Kniclo. In fact, Fitzy didn't see C. Kniclo.
                            Jennings, the hotel proprietor who is referred to as a well respected businessman in a pair of Canadian and three upstate New York papers, wasn't in the room next door.
                            Fitzy didn't shove the door in or break it down. He used Corcoran's key.

                            It’s difficult to imagine a ‘well respected businessman’ owning a place like The East River Hotel. I’d hate to have stayed at a hotel owned by a disreputable businessman.
                            Regards

                            Michael🔎


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                            • #15
                              Mike:

                              The three upstate New York ( Poughkeepsie, Rochester, and Buffalo) newspapers all used the same news agency. I think the Canadian paper ( Ottawa Citizen, if I recall correctly) also used the same news agency for their American-related articles. No article with the remarks found in those upstate papers can be found in a newspaper out of Manhattan or Brooklyn ( a separate city in 1891).

                              The stench in the room ( Room 31) was probably the reason one of the people who followed the Coroner up there put Brown's shoe in the window as a means of allowing air in.
                              Or, perhaps Brown or C. Kniclo did that. I've yet to see a report which clearly states who put the shoe in the window or placed the ladder in the hallway which led to the roof. There might be a reference to the latter somewhere that I've overlooked....but let's just say I don't remember seeing one.


                              Quick add-on:

                              Inspector Byrnes ( I have the article somewhere in my files) wrote a piece discussing the rapid increase in the number of lodging houses in Manhattan following the arrival of a Brit named Howe ( Not to be confused with lawyer William Howe).

                              I'm sure there were quite a few well-respected ( read : affluent) men who owned dives like the ERH and the infamous Sweeney's Shambles back then as there are today, Mike. They just don't live in them.
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