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  • IWMEC Never Under Suspicion For Berner St. Murder Says Former S.Y. Officer

    An excerpt from Patrick McIntyre's column concerning the Stride Murder


    Reynolds's Newspaper
    April 7, 1895

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    The Ripper could have stopped in for the music and festivities, especially if he was a "low class Polish Jew." The subject of the talk that night was something about whether Jews should be socialists. And I still see strong implications that the Double Event had political overtones. If the socialists were against the sweaters, might a sweater have struck at lower class Jews?

    If Kate had not been so horribly cut I would feel fairly certain the Double Event was not by JtR, whoever he was, but was done by someone with an ulterior motive even though we do not understand his message.
    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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    • #3
      I doubt that Jack the Ripper had any message at all. This very rare type of murder/ mutilation, as far as those who were apprehended indicate, was very personal and a fantasy of the murderer himself ( yes, definitely male)...and yes, this is profiling for what it's worth.

      As far as the Club was concerned, I'm inclined to agree with the author of the article...A good dog, even if he is just a dog, if he has freedom of movement, rarely craps in his own yard.
      Best Wishes,
      Cris Malone
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      "Objectivity comes from how the evidence is treated, not the nature of the evidence itself. Historians can be just as objective as any scientist."

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      • #4
        Cris is absolutely right on this one. Given the suspicion already surrounding organisations like the IWMEC and their political activities, it would've been very foolish indeed to tie themselves as suspects to the Whitechapel Murderer. In any case, the witness statements (of which we have quite a few in this instance) tend to suggest it's very unlikely anyway.

        Cheers,
        Adam.

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        • #5
          To an extent I agree with both Chris and Adam but it was an open meeting and anyone could have come. A Ripperologist somewhere a long time ago suggested Liz was standing at the gateway listening to music. I like that theory too.

          A strong argument against JtR having been inside the club is that it must not have been a huge meeting, nothing like a rally of the Third Reich or something, and probably other members could have pointed fingers toward the killer based on a time he left or something.

          (I also wonder if someone in the area eventually identified JtR and he simply ended up submerged in the Thames. No, I am not referring to Druitt.)

          Even considering all that, socialism then and now, created hot emotions and extreme acts. Maybe the East End was so saturated with Jewishness that clues would naturally be found in places frequented by Jews. Or maybe the killer that night did not like the message at the club meeting.

          There are so many possibilities with the death of Liz.
          The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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