Originally posted by D.J.Adams
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There had been no rent paid since the double event.
Doubt Mary Kelly was as close to Barnett as most surmise.
Reckon she was in the process of dumping him,one way or another.
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Originally posted by D.J.Adams View PostThe former.
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Originally posted by Jerry Dunlop View Post
If this incident indeed happened a "short time ago", I was thinking more along the lines of whether Mary was still living with JB when she ventured out early in the morning to the Highway or if it was after JB moved out?
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Reminds me of Kidney at the Inquest.
Coroner] You know of nobody whom she was likely to have complications with or fall foul of? - No, but I think the police authorities are very much to blame, or they would have got the man who murdered her. At Leman-street Police-station, on Monday night, I asked for a detective to give information to get the man.
[Coroner] What information had you? - I could give information that would enable the detectives to discover the man at any time.
[Coroner] Then will you give us your information now? - I told the inspector on duty at the police-station that I could give information provided he would let me have a young, strange detective to act on it, and he would not give me one.
[Coroner] What do you think should be inquired into? - I might have given information that would have led to a great deal if I had been provided with a strange young detective.
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Originally posted by D.J.Adams View Post
A two shilling bed.
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Originally posted by D.J.Adams View Post
A two shilling bed.
Obviously sailors who had just been paid off after long voyages devoid of female company had more money than sense.
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Originally posted by Scott Nelson View PostI think the authorities were in contact with Mary's family, where much of the information originated that had no independent collaboration.
But I don't think any of their statements made it to the press as it would create a scandal. That's why all the investigations appeared to stop.
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Originally posted by San Fran View PostThe article says "statements have appeared". That sounds like written statements. Could that be evidence that Mrs. Phoenix, in her statement to the police, did make those statements about Buki and Mary and the French Lady in the West End?
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I'm sure others have picked up on this, I haven't until now. Mrs. M'Carthy states Mary had, "some short time ago", visited her with a strange man and asked for a bed.
Hull Daily Mail
November 12, 1888
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The article says "statements have appeared". That sounds like written statements. Could that be evidence that Mrs. Phoenix, in her statement to the police, did make those statements about Buki and Mary and the French Lady in the West End?
Madam Roullier didn't live in a "fashionable" house of resorts. But I don't doubt that Madam Ochse did. Or else, how did she become a minor celebrity that was lampooned in the papers?!
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I thought this was interesting. I wonder who the companions from her more prosperous days would be?
Hull Daily Mail
November 12th, 1888
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Shoddy cloth, invented in the mid 19th century was made from waste wool and was used for the making of clothes, shoddy being cheaper to make would allow clothes to be sold cheaper than those made from new wool. Perhaps the term "shoddy shop" could mean a cheap clothing shop?
A little more detail here:
https://www.historyextra.com/period/...e-word-shoddy/
Rgds
John
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In that latter case, Milliner, when applied to a man, means: "..one busied in trifling occupations". Like a slap in the face for women's work
Ya gotta laugh!
In which case, the report of Mary working in a "shoddy shop" could actually mean that she worked in a "fancy goods" shop.
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