Tom, now you've conjured a picture of Mary running behind her own coffin with her old cock linnet.
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Originally posted by Robert Linford View PostBlimey it looks like a furniture removal van. I'd always envisaged an LVP ambulance as a handcart being pushed by a bloke going 'dee-da, dee-da, dee-da.'Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View PostI think the hand cart you're thinking of is an ambulance, whereas a body in a casket would necessitate a bigger vehicle. In fact, a furniture van might just be the thing!
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Tom Wescott
That might be Wilton's rig come down from St. Leonard's.
Dave
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Originally posted by Edward Stow View PostAnd another on I think 11th with an interesting view that I have never seen before even if it is not related to this thread...
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In the LVP many police forces had a handcart that resembled a stretcher with a pair of wheels, this resembled a costermongers cart. This cart was refered to as an 'ambulance'. It was used mainly for picking up drunks and taking dead bodies to the morgue.
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Originally posted by Roy Corduroy View Post[ATTACH]15740[/ATTACH]
What was her address at marriage? 86 ______ Street
As a bonus- I just realised that in Elizabeth's settlement the 111 Old ?? Rd where they first lived is 111 Old BG Road
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Originally posted by Robert Linford View PostHi Roy
Yes, I looked at Minerva but as far as I could see the numbers didn't reach #86.
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Thanks Debs,
Elizabeth Broomer, born 1864 Croydon, was Age 7 in the 1871 census of England and Wales. Age 17 in the 1881 census, Age 25 in the 1888 Settlement Record, then named Elizabeth Prater.
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So her Age 21 as the marriage banns of William Prater and Elizabeth Broomer were recorded on the October 1881 certificate is out by 3 or 4 years, I'm taking a guess.
Debs what is the settlement record you shared? Was it from a Poor Law Union? Which one? I see the date of Jan 24, 1888. What else does it say at the top please anyone?
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Originally posted by Roy Corduroy View PostThanks Debs,
Elizabeth Broomer, born 1864 Croydon, was Age 7 in the 1871 census of England and Wales. Age 17 in the 1881 census, Age 25 in the 1888 Settlement Record, then known as Elizabeth Prater.
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So her Age 21 as the marriage banns of William Prater and Elizabeth Broomer were recorded on the 1881 certificate is out by 4 years, I'm taking a guess.
Debs what is the settlement record you shared? Was it from a Poor Law Union? Which one? I see the date of Jan 24, 1888. What else does it say at the top please anyone?
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As I said, I'm hoping to write an article which will include the details. People can then make up their mind which woman better fits the known facts.
Basically, the Elizabeth Broomer who married William Prater boot machinist is definitely the subject of the settlement record and the woman admitted to Whitechapel Infirmary with syphilis- and other institutions This woman had been deserted by her husband for 5 year which fits with what Prater said of herself. The age on the marriage certificate may have been fabricated to get around asking for parental consent.
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