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  • I deliberately didn't include details of Alice McKenzie's death in the timeline because it's adequately covered elswhere. What might be useful, though, is to record how the limited biographical info provided by Alice's East End cronies after her death enabled the provincial press to identify her in 1889.

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    • Alice first appears on the 1851 census, aged 6. The family’s address is simply ‘Minster Precincts’. The next household is in Gravel Walk.This map shows the house nos, they are a bit all over the place.

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      • It does look a mess re the numbering. But the pattern in 51 seems the same as in 71 - school, then one house (prebendary in 71) followed by Pitts.

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        • I tell a lie : there are TWO households between the school and the Pitts.

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          • Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
            I tell a lie : there are TWO households between the school and the Pitts.
            Perhaps there was a house attached to the Almoner’s Hall.

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            • On the enumerator's schedule it says 2 houses inhabited on page 3 (he hasn't counted the overrun from page 2) so it looks like two houses between the school and the Pitts. Weird.

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              • Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                On the enumerator's schedule it says 2 houses inhabited on page 3 (he hasn't counted the overrun from page 2) so it looks like two houses between the school and the Pitts. Weird.
                The tiny house at the back of 19, then the Prebendal House, then the Pitts’ house attached to the Almoners Hall (small doors at far end - see link) then Gravel Walk?


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                • Maybe, Gary. This is Clack territory. I once got lost at the top of a helter-skelter.

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                  • Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                    Maybe, Gary. This is Clack territory. I once got lost at the top of a helter-skelter.
                    Goad???

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                    • There are maps at Peterborough Archives but may not give the house numbers. I've just forwarded you an email from them.

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                      • This is a great image of Peterborough in the 1860s.

                        Who is the old boy in the stovepipe hat?

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                        Whoever he was, the chances are that Alice knew him.

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                        • Is this him again?

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                          • By 1871 Charles Pitts, aged 65, had given up his job as a postman and become a gardener, quite possibly working within the Minster Precincts.

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                            • Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
                              By 1871 Charles Pitts, aged 65, had given up his job as a postman and become a gardener, quite possibly working within the Minster Precincts.
                              The Pitts family lived in the Minster Precincts for decades (40+ years from memory). Presumably the houses there were church-owned. Charles was originally a servant, so my guess is that he was at one time a church employee and for that reason was allowed to stay on in the house even after he became a ‘post office messenger’. Aged 65, he may well have tended the Cathedral grounds or the private gardens of some senior cleric or other.

                              The caption accompanying the second photo says:

                              A very old 1860s photograph taken from what appears to be an area behind what would today be Bishops Gardens.

                              I rest my case.��

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                              • Wonderful photographs, Gary.

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