Could These Be Alice Mackenzie's Relatives ?

[Robert Linford]

Aha! Looked for Potts etc but not Pitt. Yes, William and Jane, and a two-year-old called Jane. Unfortunately no image available.

[Gary Barnett]

Aha! Looked for Potts etc but not Pitt. Yes, William and Jane, and a two-year-old called Jane. Unfortunately no image available.

What little there is stacks up. Incidentally Whittlesey was renowned for its brickworks, which doesn’t add much other than a bit of ‘context’.

[Robert Linford]

stacks up..... brickworks

Very swift, Gary.

[Gary Barnett]

Here’s Mary Jane’s birth, registered at the General Baptist Meeting House, as were some of Alice’s older siblings.

How/why did the family change from Baptist to Anglican, I wonder?

[Gary Barnett]

stacks up..... brickworks

Very swift, Gary.

Of course, when I’m on a roll there’s no hodding me back.

[Gary Barnett]

Here’s Mary Jane’s birth, registered at the General Baptist Meeting House, as were some of Alice’s older siblings.

How/why did the family change from Baptist to Anglican, I wonder?

Whoops!

[Robert Linford]

The switch may have been to do with their proximity to the cathedral and their role there. Baptist is a bit low church.

[Gary Barnett]

The switch may have been to do with their proximity to the cathedral and their role there. Baptist is a bit low church.

Would a high-ranking Anglican cleric have employed a non-conformist servant in the 1830s?

[Robert Linford]

Well, that's kind of what I was saying.

[Gary Barnett]

On Alice’s 1845 birth cert her father, Charles, is recorded as a footman.

The 1851 census recorded only 7 male servants in the Peterborough Minster Precincts census district:

2 Footmen
1 Coachman
2 Grooms
1 Household Servant
1 Page.

One of the footmen was in the household of George Davys, Bishop of Peterborough; the other was in the household of Marsham Argles, Canon of Peterborough.

George Davys was Bishop of Peterborough between 1839 and 1864. He had at one time been tutor to Princess (later Queen) Victoria.



I have been in contact with the Peterborough Diocesan Office to see if they have any records that might tell us exactly where in the precincts the Pitts family lived and in whose household Charles was employed.

[Anna Morris]

This may or may not be an appropriate place for this link but it could have deep meaning in genealogy tracing. It is a total surprise to me and could have to do with some spellings of Alice's name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CtWyh49Mms

It could definitely affect going back in history. The gist here is that Z, zed, in Scots is something entirely different and this short video explains it.

[Cogidubnus]

Just been hooked on watching some of the authors other stuff Anna...what an interesting collection of observations...I've had to bookmark him!

Dave

[Anna Morris]

Just been hooked on watching some of the authors other stuff Anna...what an interesting collection of observations...I've had to bookmark him!

Dave

Lots of good stuff on that one and also NativLang or something similar.

You are well acquainted with my special project and probably know I am no linguist and expected to find an alphabet in the VM. How ignorant I was! Language is about sounds and representing sounds in many different ways. It is so much more than most of us ever consider and all of it is fascinating.

We all know genealogy records can vary widely in spellings. I wonder how many different spellings of names came about because of things like in this video? In the case of "Alice MacKenzie"/Kinsey might the original spelling have been = to Kinnye, Kenny(e), etc?

[Debra Arif]

On Alice’s 1846 birth cert her father, Charles, is recorded as a footman.

The 1851 census recorded only 7 male servants in the Minster Precincts census district:

2 Footmen
1 Coachman
2 Grooms
1 Household Servant
1 Page.

One of the footman was in the household of George Davys, Bishop of Peterborough; the other was in the household of Marsham Argles, Canon of Peterborough.

George Davys was Bishop of Peterborough between 1839 and 1864. He had at one time been tutor to Princess (later Queen) Victoria.

I have been in contact with the Peterborough Diocesan Office to see if they have any records that might tell us exactly where in the precincts the Pitts family lived and in whose household Charles was employed.

Gary, I didn't see this post originally. Did you hear anything back from the Peterborough Diocesan Office?

[Gary Barnett]

Gary, I didn't see this post originally. Did you hear anything back from the Peterborough Diocesan Office?

No, I didn’t, Debs.

I should chase them up.