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  • The John Cleary Story & Nathaniel Hawthorne

    Looking through Hawthorne's tales, I can't pinpoint which one the report is referring to.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Hawthorne

    If you know, please share.


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    "Mr. Higginbotham's Catastrophe", one of Hawthorne's "Twice Told Tales" is a little bit like this. No murder is actually committed in that story but it very nearly is. The murder is prevented by a peddler who spreads the tale of Mr. Higginbotham's murder before he is actually attacked. There are some complex twists and turns and it's a pretty good short story.
    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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    • #3
      Good of you to mention that, Anna !

      https://archive.org/stream/twicetold...e/148/mode/2up
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      • #4
        Good one, Howard. Had not seen that reference to Hawthorne and John Cleary before.

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        • #5
          Come again - exactly what happened thirty years before the Pinchin Street torso business? Was it fiction or real...?
          "In these matters it is the little things that tell the tales" - Coroner Wynne Baxter during the Nichols inquest.

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          • #6
            It was a fictional tale, included in Hawthorne's Twice Told Tales.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Christer Holmgren View Post
              Come again - exactly what happened thirty years before the Pinchin Street torso business? Was it fiction or real...?
              I think the story I referenced is pure fiction. Some of Hawthorne's stories had a slight basis in fact, but not much. This is the only one of his stories that I know, that has a general theme matching the short news article. There is no actual murder in the story I mention.

              Put another way, I am unaware of torso murders, true of fictionalized in early U.S. history and that was the time when Hawthorne wrote. I doubt also that Hawthorne could have written about such, or if society would have accepted something so graphic.
              The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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              • #8
                Howard, Anna - many thanks!
                "In these matters it is the little things that tell the tales" - Coroner Wynne Baxter during the Nichols inquest.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
                  I think the story I referenced is pure fiction. Some of Hawthorne's stories had a slight basis in fact, but not much. This is the only one of his stories that I know, that has a general theme matching the short news article. There is no actual murder in the story I mention.

                  Put another way, I am unaware of torso murders, true of fictionalized in early U.S. history and that was the time when Hawthorne wrote. I doubt also that Hawthorne could have written about such, or if society would have accepted something so graphic.
                  Thanks for alerting me to that great story Anna/How. I don't think I'd ever read anything by Hawthorne before, although I listened to a BBC adaptation of The Scarlet Letter a few years ago. I'll have to look out for a copy of Twice Told Tales.

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                  • #10
                    G-Man

                    18th post on this thread will show you Hawthorne's backyard in Salem.


                    http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....8221#post28221


                    His son Julian, also an author, wrote about the Whitechapel Murders.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                      G-Man

                      18th post on this thread will show you Hawthorne's backyard in Salem.


                      http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....8221#post28221


                      His son Julian, also an author, wrote about the Whitechapel Murders.
                      Thanks, How - and belated congrats ;-).

                      I've never been on holiday to the US, only a few business trips to Stamford, Mass O' Chew Sets.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
                        Thanks for alerting me to that great story Anna/How. I don't think I'd ever read anything by Hawthorne before, although I listened to a BBC adaptation of The Scarlet Letter a few years ago. I'll have to look out for a copy of Twice Told Tales.
                        I think the whole thing is available online. Or parts thereof. I read a lot of Hawthorne and other goodies like "The Lodger" on Project Gutenberg.
                        The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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