Charles Who?

[Christer Holmgren]

Tom W:

"That evil son of a bitch."

Indeed! I mean, it´s not like he was a car painter like Ridgway or a school teacher like Chikatilo, but still...!

All the best, Tom!

Christer

[Monty]

That evil son of a bitch.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

I believe the acronym is PMSL.

Monty

[Tom_Wescott]

Somewhere around 1900, he had earned enough money to quit his carman job, and he instead opened up a small store that sold food and sweets. His wife Elizabeth survived him by twenty years.

That evil son of a bitch.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Christer Holmgren]

Colin MacDonald:

"It could be argued, conversely, that handling the body would allow Lechmere to explain the presence of blood on his hands if they were subsequently examined."

True. And not conversely, actually. This is exactly what I am saying. It deserves pointing out, though, that much as Lechmere DID handle the body and encouraged Paul to do the same, he stated - when Paul suggested a prop-up of the woman - that he would not touch her.
Funny, since that was exactly what he had just done.

All the best,
Christer

[Colin Macdonald]

Explaining the Blood

The reason for this is easy to see: as long as the woman was lying on the ground, it could not be made out in the darkness that she had had her neck severed down to the spine, and it provided Lechmere with the opportunity to procure an alibi for whatever blood he could have gotten on himself.

It could be argued, conversely, that handling the body would allow Lechmere to explain the presence of blood on his hands if they were subsequently examined. If Lechmere was the killer and was trying to cover his back, handling the body would be the sensible way forward. Both he and Paul would inevitably get blood on them, but their accounts would corroborate each other as to the reason for its presence.

Regards, Colin.

[Howard Brown]

Thanks for posting that article of Christer's, Edward....
Good that you seem to have mustered up interest in the Whitechapel Murders, Christer !

Thanks Christer,

Jackie x

[Christer Holmgren]

Edward:

"I am sure that this will have sparked a new wave of interest in the Whitechapel Murders in Sweden."

Judging by the reactions reaching my mailbox, I´d say that´s pretty spot on. I have made numerous new aquaintances who I am set to meet with too, so that´s nice!

"Even if one or two people on this forum don’t share Christer’s proffered solution..."

Who´s the second guy ...?

All the best,
Christer

[Christer Holmgren]

Jon:

"Well done to Christer"

Thanks, Jon - much appreciated!

Christer

[Christer Holmgren]

Jackie M:

"What happened to cross/lechmere after 1888? Did he die shortly after?"

Charles Lechmere died December 23 1920 in Bow, London, after having suffered brain haemorrhage. Somewhere around 1900, he had earned enough money to quit his carman job, and he instead opened up a small store that sold food and sweets. His wife Elizabeth survived him by twenty years.

The best
Christer

Hiya,
I'm not up to speed yet on this cross/lechmere stuff, so I apologise in advance if I ask a silly question.

What happened to cross/lechmere after 1888? Did he die shortly after?

Or two silly questions lol.

Jackie x

[Edward Stow]

Here’s the last page

Who’s that geezer?

[Edward Stow]

Here is a Christer’s article as it looked in the Sydsvenskannewspaper. And very impressive it is to.
I am sure that this will have sparked a new wave of interest in the Whitechapel Murders in Sweden. Even if one or two people on this forum don’t share Christer’s proffered solution, then that much should at least be agreed.
I think the graphics are amazing, and I like the avoidance of the top hat and cape motif.
I also like the map with various routes marked out.

[Debra Arif]

Hello Debs,

Thanks for the further clarification.
I admit that at this point I am a little at a loss, as your follow up post further explains.
Again, the only instance I call recall is of my granfather being christened aged 7, after my great grandfather never returned from working on a ship 6 or more years previously. He, the great grandfather, was missing presume dead, apparently, as no other record of the man exists. So perhaps in times of death of the male "parent", when no previous christening has occured, then this happens?
However as you explained in this particular instance, we have a christening 12years before a christening of the same child. Most odd indeed. I have a feeling it may have to do with death of the "father"..but am very much on unsure ground.

Phil

Sorry Phil, missed this. Yes, it could still be to do a presumed death of the father maybe.

[Debra Arif]

Hi Deb

The explanation could be that the original Emily died, then the family had another child that they named Emily, unless you know that it is definitely the same child.

Best regards

Chris

Chris, no it is definitely the same child as she appears aged 14 as Emily Cross on the 1861 census, along with the rest of Cross/Lechmere family.

Thanks Edward. I wonder if John ran off and was presumed dead?