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  • Debra Arif
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    Thanks guys
    I think there are a few interesting things brought up by the research.
    The obvious one being the identification of the witness Eva Harstein as the daughter of Isaac and Kate Har(t)steinwho lived in Dutfield's Yard. There have been questions in the past about how Eva and her sister had such a good view of the crime scene in Dutfield's yard when it was closed off to the public and speculation that they may have lived in Dutfiled's Yard itself at 40 Berner Street and not the reported 14. The wedding certificate shows that Eva was certainly living with her family in Dutfield's Yard in 1890, of course, that doesn't necessarily mean the same applied in 1888 but it supports the possibility. It also shows that Eva actually existed, was a local and was not someone shipped in by Charles Grande to claim to have seen the grape stalk at the crime scene that Grande and Bachelor would later retrieve from the drains.

    Eva's husband Morris Mendlestein possibly being a member of the Berner Street Club, if the Special Branch ledger refers to him, which seems highly likely, then it shows a link between the club, where at least two of the members claim to have seen grapes in Stride's hand and a witness who saw a grape stalk.


    Debs

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  • Lynn Cates
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    Hello Debs. Well done.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Gary Barnett
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    Originally posted by Debra Arif View Post
    "The next evidence gleaned by the detectives was that of a Mrs. Rosenfield and her sister, Miss Eva Harstein, both residing at 14 Berner street. Mrs. Rosenfield deposes that early on Sunday morning she passed the spot on which the body had lain, and observed on the ground close by a grape stalk stained with blood. Miss Eva Harstein gave corroborative evidence as to the finding of the grape stalk close to where the body lay. She also stated that, after the removal of the body of the murdered woman she saw a few small petals of a white natural flower lying quite close to the spot where the body had rested."
    Evening News London, U.K. 4 October 1888

    Eva Harstein:

    Marriage solemnized at Sandys Row Synagogue, In the Parish of Christ Church Spitalfields according to the usages of the Jews on 26th October 1890
    Groom Morris Mondelstein 25, bachelor, cabinet maker, residence at time of marriage 40 B Berner Street, father Mya Mondelstein, deceased, general dealer.
    Bride Eva Hartstein, 20, spinster, residence at time of marriage 40 B Berner Street, father Isaac Hartstein, tailor.
    Morris signed his name as Morris Mandelstein and Eva made her mark. In the presence of Israel Gre?nberg and A Winkel

    Interestingly, Eva's husband Morris Mendelstein(plus variant spellings) may be the same Morris Mendlestein mention in the Special Branch ledgers as being a member of the Berner Street Club. Intelligence received on various clubs and organisations and their activities and memberships was listed in these, including the Berner Street club. The undated entry reads: Mendlestein Morris, member of Berner Street Club. It will be remembered that two of the Berner Street club members, Deimschitz and Kozebrodski claimed to have seen grapes in Stride's hand when they viewed the body.

    In the 1891 census the couple were living at 5 Pedley Street, Bethnal Green- Eva born Russia c1871, Morris also born Russia
    Also on the 1891 census at 40 Berner Stable Yard Isaac Harstein , 40, presser, born Poland, wife Kate, 50 born Poland, daughters Matilda 1?, Annie 9 (Eva's parents and siblings)

    In 1892, Eva Mendelstein, nee Harstein, and her first child sailed on the Majestic to join her husband Morris who was an American citizen. The family settled in the Bronx and Morris, who was later described as blind, ran a newspaper stand and candy store. The couple had six children all but the first child, Dinah, born in the U.S. Their son Meiyer, later changing his name to Michael joined the NYPD, while another son, Edward, became a journalist. There are many American records and documents relating to the family in the Bronx and in Florida. One U.S. census record shows parents Isaac and Kate Harstein at the same address as Eva and Morris and immigration records for her married sister Matilda confirm the link.

    Debs
    Great research, Debs.
















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  • Debra Arif
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    Thanks Rob.
    Ah, yes, all waddling along in a line, I remember that!

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  • Rob Clack
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    Pedley Street, where we saw the ducks all those years ago.
    Great work as always Debs.

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  • Debra Arif
    started a topic Eva Harstein

    Eva Harstein

    "The next evidence gleaned by the detectives was that of a Mrs. Rosenfield and her sister, Miss Eva Harstein, both residing at 14 Berner street. Mrs. Rosenfield deposes that early on Sunday morning she passed the spot on which the body had lain, and observed on the ground close by a grape stalk stained with blood. Miss Eva Harstein gave corroborative evidence as to the finding of the grape stalk close to where the body lay. She also stated that, after the removal of the body of the murdered woman she saw a few small petals of a white natural flower lying quite close to the spot where the body had rested."
    Evening News London, U.K. 4 October 1888

    Eva Harstein:

    Marriage solemnized at Sandys Row Synagogue, In the Parish of Christ Church Spitalfields according to the usages of the Jews on 26th October 1890
    Groom Morris Mondelstein 25, bachelor, cabinet maker, residence at time of marriage 40 B Berner Street, father Mya Mondelstein, deceased, general dealer.
    Bride Eva Hartstein, 20, spinster, residence at time of marriage 40 B Berner Street, father Isaac Hartstein, tailor.
    Morris signed his name as Morris Mandelstein and Eva made her mark. In the presence of Israel Gre?nberg and A Winkel

    Interestingly, Eva's husband Morris Mendelstein(plus variant spellings) may be the same Morris Mendlestein mention in the Special Branch ledgers as being a member of the Berner Street Club. Intelligence received on various clubs and organisations and their activities and memberships was listed in these, including the Berner Street club. The undated entry reads: Mendlestein Morris, member of Berner Street Club. It will be remembered that two of the Berner Street club members, Deimschitz and Kozebrodski claimed to have seen grapes in Stride's hand when they viewed the body.

    In the 1891 census the couple were living at 5 Pedley Street, Bethnal Green- Eva born Russia c1871, Morris also born Russia
    Also on the 1891 census at 40 Berner Stable Yard Isaac Harstein , 40, presser, born Poland, wife Kate, 50 born Poland, daughters Matilda 1?, Annie 9 (Eva's parents and siblings)

    In 1892, Eva Mendelstein, nee Harstein, and her first child sailed on the Majestic to join her husband Morris who was an American citizen. The family settled in the Bronx and Morris, who was later described as blind, ran a newspaper stand and candy store. The couple had six children all but the first child, Dinah, born in the U.S. Their son Meiyer, later changing his name to Michael joined the NYPD, while another son, Edward, became a journalist. There are many American records and documents relating to the family in the Bronx and in Florida. One U.S. census record shows parents Isaac and Kate Harstein at the same address as Eva and Morris and immigration records for her married sister Matilda confirm the link.

    Debs
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