Thanks, Dusty. That is very interesting about Masey.
Standford's thesis does mention an earlier use of a flying brigade at Scotland in 1870's, specifically used to target certain criminals but Masey is apparently contemporary with Melen's too.
I did find mention of the Flying Brigade in the context of being a fore runner of the Flying Squad. This was in the book 'Triumphs of detection; a book about detectives'by Dilnot, George. I couldn't see a publication date on the book, perhaps the interwar years. Dilnot talks of the formation of a Flying Brigade some '30 year earlier' whose orders were taken directly from Scotland Yard. I was able to date this particular group to the early 1900s by mention of a couple of the criminals names that they credited with capturing.
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Originally posted by Howard Brown View PostExcellent find, Debs....I don't recall reading about the Flying Brigade before...
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Originally posted by Monty View PostVery much. Is there a link?
As I mentioned to you privately, SY had specialist teams which focused on specific crimes such as banking fraud, extortion etc. I suspect this surveillance team would use men from different division who had a bent for such work, with the reason they wouldn’t be recognised by the local villainy.
It’s all very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Monty
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Originally posted by Debra Arif View PostThanks, Neil. I've just been on and replied.
Stanford does give a brief history of the surveilance teams in his thesis, particularly them targetting Whitechapel in earlier years in order to keep the criminal classes in check.
The thesis is a really interesting read in itself, I think you will enjoy it.
As I mentioned to you privately, SY had specialist teams which focused on specific crimes such as banking fraud, extortion etc. I suspect this surveillance team would use men from different division who had a bent for such work, with the reason they wouldn’t be recognised by the local villainy.
It’s all very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Monty
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Originally posted by Monty View PostIt’s not a term I’m familiar with Debs.
I suspect they may be akin to the teams who would be drafted out to rural major crimes (think of Road Hill House and Whicher) however these were purely investigative teams as opposed to surveillance teams.
Flying Brigades or Columns were small military teams sent out for various reasons and as the police used a lot of military terminology, it’s possible the name come from the army.
Pure speculation on my part.
I’ve sent you a FB message btw.
Monty
Thanks, Neil. I've just been on and replied.
Stanford does give a brief history of the surveilance teams in his thesis, particularly them targetting Whitechapel in earlier years in order to keep the criminal classes in check.
The thesis is a really interesting read in itself, I think you will enjoy it.
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Excellent find, Debs....I don't recall reading about the Flying Brigade before...
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It’s not a term I’m familiar with Debs.
I suspect they may be akin to the teams who would be drafted out to rural major crimes (think of Road Hill House and Whicher) however these were purely investigative teams as opposed to surveillance teams.
Flying Brigades or Columns were small military teams sent out for various reasons and as the police used a lot of military terminology, it’s possible the name come from the army.
Pure speculation on my part.
I’ve sent you a FB message btw.
Monty
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H Division Sgt Josiah Cox Melen 'Flying Brigade'
I recently came across this obituary of Josiah H Melen, a sergeant of H Division at the time of the Whitechapel Murders in 1888.
The obituary made mention that Melen, at the time of the murders, was in charge of a group of plain clothes detectives trying to catch the murderer and doing their surveilance work in slippered feet. Another newspaper report specifically calls this surveillance team the 'Flying Brigade'
I am really interested in learning more about this Flying Brigade but haven't been able to find much information on it. Has anyone else has come across it before? I did read a Ph. D. thesis on Metropolitan Policing from the University of Huddersfield and the creation of the criminal classes that describes a similar group called a flying brigade who were made up of ten men commanded directly from Scotland Yard and not at divisional level and deployed wherever they were needed. Their main task was undercover surveilance work. I will put a link to the thesis below because it is an interesting piece.
Melen's pension record shows that he was definitely in H Division in 1888 and I have been able to find mentions of him on cases in the newspapers, confirming he was a station sergeant.
Here are the obituary and a further report plus a link to the thesis:
West Middlesex Gazette - Saturday 10 July 1937
Middlesex County Times - Saturday 02 February 1895
THE METROPOLITAN POLICE. 1850 – 1914;
TARGETING, HARASSMENT AND THE CREATION OF A CRIMINAL CLASS.
By TERENCE GEORGE STANFORD SEPTEMBER 2007
http://eprints.hud.ac.uk/id/eprint/7...&embedded=trueTags: None
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