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    In 1881, Miller was the head of a single household at 79, Pennington Street consisting of his family plus an assortment of prostitutes and sailors.

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    He was still there in 1891, still head of the household and still seemingly running a brothel. It was his axe that was used to inflict the horrific injuries on Lottie Jones.

    Does that mean he had been MJK’s landlord? If so, why no mention of him in 1888?

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    1891

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    • #3
      1901

      By 1901, he had moved the short distance to John’s Hill. Still living in a house with prostitutes and sailors, but no longer recorded as being in the same household as them.

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        1901

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        • #5
          Millers recorded occupations are interesting:

          1881: Unemployed Tailor
          1891: Skin Dyer (Fur)
          1901: Cage Maker (Wire)

          The last is the most curious. Given the proximity to Jamrach’s wild animal shop in the Highway and the Menagerie between Breezers and Artichoke Hills - and his nationality - I’m wondering if Miller had connections to the German Jamrachs.

          As we know, Charles Jamrach married Clara Salter, the daughter of John Salter, the last licensee of the Red Lion at 79, Pennington Street.

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          • #6
            Here's the Old Bailey court transcript of the attack on Lottie Jones committed by Joseph Brescher :

            https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/brow...-791#highlight
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            • #7
              Thanks, How!

              I think it’s in one of the press reports that Miller is described as Brescher’s and Lottie’s landlord.

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              • #8
                Also apparently a St M and M's man?

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                • #9
                  Yes indeed Gary.....

                  Morning Post
                  London
                  September 22, 1891
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Debra Arif View Post
                    Also apparently a St M and M's man?
                    Was he, Debs?

                    That’s interesting. What was/were the occasion/s?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
                      Was he, Debs?

                      That’s interesting. What was/were the occasion/s?
                      There's a baptism for a child named Anna Sophia in 1886:

                      Anna Sophia b 14/1/86 baptised 28/1/86
                      Daur of John and Sophia Miller godmother Jane Wright.

                      It has a marginal note in latin that it was a private baptism and mentions death.

                      There's no address to show it's definitely them.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Debra Arif View Post
                        There's a baptism for a child named Anna Sophia in 1886:

                        Anna Sophia b 14/1/86 baptised 28/1/86
                        Daur of John and Sophia Miller godmother Jane Wright.

                        It has a marginal note in latin that it was a private baptism and mentions death.

                        There's no address to show it's definitely them.
                        Nor a mother’s maiden name, which I believe was Shell or Shill.

                        I must send off for that cert.

                        Thanks!

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                        • #13
                          The child died later in 86. The name Muller in the death index seems to confirm its the same family:

                          Name: Annie Sophia Muller
                          Estimated birth year: abt 1886
                          Registration Year: 1886
                          Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
                          Age at Death: 0
                          Registration district: St George in the East

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Debra Arif View Post
                            The child died later in 86. The name Muller in the death index seems to confirm its the same family:

                            Name: Annie Sophia Muller
                            Estimated birth year: abt 1886
                            Registration Year: 1886
                            Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
                            Age at Death: 0
                            Registration district: St George in the East
                            The mind boggles at the possibilities of who the informant might have been.

                            The death cert is on order. I haven’t yet found the birth in the index.

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                            • #15
                              Annie Sophia Miller born Q1 1886 St Olave MMN Shill. That the one?

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