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    Can anyone point me in the direction of an online or hard copy version of this:


    ” Conchubhair, P.,

    ThŠ Sinn Ocrach: Ballylongford and the Great Famine (self-published, Ballylongford, 1997)


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    • Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
      If the Nazareth House Mary was Biddyís child, itís rather sad that Biddy, Bridget, Julia and Juliaís children were all living together in Shoreditch at the time of the 1911 census while poor little Mary was living among strangers in a home for destitute children.
      Maybe Mary was ill or crippled? Maybe she had asthma or something and could not tolerate London smog? (Some art historians claim Monet developed his impressionist style by painting scenes around London when the smog was the worst and the available light the most shaded and subdued.)
      The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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      • Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
        I think the home was in the parish of Prittlewell. It was a catholic institution run by the Sisters of Nazareth, whose order apparently keeps its records close to its chest.
        The general description seems like it could translate into 'Seaside Home' but if they took care of children and elderly at the time, I do not know how it would fit into the JtR saga except it is said this home has extensive grounds.

        If the JtR suspect was 'sent with difficulty', might he have been sent on some ruse that the care or service he needed was available at....wherever....Seaside Home? Thinking about the parishes, might the suspect have been the responsibility of a parish outside of, or on the outskirts of London, maybe near the sea?
        The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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        • The Mary O’Rourke born in Poplar (Union Workhouse) in 1902 was the daughter of an Ellen O’Rourke. She was very likely the child in the Nazareth House orphanage in 1911.

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          • Call me suspicious, but there’s something a bit odd about the Enrights’ 1886 Abergavenny workhouse record. The incorrect names and ages were probably just an error on the part of a flustered workhouse official having to deal with a large and boisterous Irish family, but aside from that their alleged tramp from Brecon to Hereford via Abergavenny just doesn’t ring true. Why would they have spent the previous night at Brecon? The 1881 census shows them living at Llangattock, which fell within the Abergavenny Union, and their youngest child, Catherine, had been born there in early 1886. Their stay at Abergavenny lasted just 24hrs and possibly because of that and that they left at 9.00 a.m. claiming to be enroute to Hereford, 20+ miles away, they were excused from the stone-breaking work other casuals were forced to undertake. Brecon (Brecknock), Abergavenny and Hereford were three distinct Poor Law Unions. Could it be that the claim that they were only imposing themselves on Abergavenny for a single day, having arrived from another Union and intending to travel to yet another the next day, was made in order to get out of having to work for their bed and breakfast?

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            • Biddy the Chiver at 26

              This is the photo attached to Bridget Enright’s 1901 Stone Asylum case notes:

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              The original image is held at the London Metropolitan Archives, City of London, Ref: CLA/001/B/01/013, in the City of London Mental Hospital (later Stone House Hospital) collection.

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              • Langho 1912 - 1915(?)

                It appears that beyond a record of her registration no information on Biddy’s stay at the Langho Reformatory has survived. If she did serve a significant portion of her 3-year sentence there, there would presumably have been quite a bit of info recorded about her condition, its causes and her progress at the institution. What a pity it is lost to us.

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                • Context: Abergavenny and Bedwellty Union

                  There’s a lot of interesting stuff here:

                  http://mongenes.org.uk/Workhouses/ab...ml?LMCL=smq6KR

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                  • Langho

                    The NA holds a MEPO file called Habitual Drunkards: Langho, Near Blackburn; Reformatory - escort of prisoners

                    Itís dated to 1910, but probably worth a look. It might provide some background, if nothing else.

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                    • The photo of Bridget might give us some idea of what MJK looked like. Bridget is fairly pretty and her clothes are nice. Note the expanse of white below her jacket. I bet that is an apron. We can see how she wore it, maybe the same way Catherine Eddowes wore hers.
                      The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                      • Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
                        The photo of Bridget might give us some idea of what MJK looked like. Bridget is fairly pretty and her clothes are nice. Note the expanse of white below her jacket. I bet that is an apron. We can see how she wore it, maybe the same way Catherine Eddowes wore hers.
                        I wonder if the jacket was her own or something supplied by the reformatory. Thereís something poignant about the two odd buttons at the bottom.

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                        • Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
                          I wonder if the jacket was her own or something supplied by the reformatory. Thereís something poignant about the two odd buttons at the bottom.
                          Interestingly, the light colored buttons look like they don't belong. The button holes are too big for those buttons. That is a fairly well tailored, probably wool suit jacket. It is possible the buttons were meant to be that way if the garment was designed to have something else like a wide sash at the waist. Alternatively, the original plan could have been for the matching buttons to be covered by a scarf, decoration or something similar, perhaps another bit of ruffle like what is around her neck. That bit looks atached to the collar. The light colored buttons look like metal. The dark ones could be a lot of things, maybe glass. What argues against the lght buttons being part of the original design is the size of the button holes, all of which could easily handle the large, dark buttons.
                          The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                          • Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
                            Interestingly, the light colored buttons look like they don't belong. The button holes are too big for those buttons. That is a fairly well tailored, probably wool suit jacket. It is possible the buttons were meant to be that way if the garment was designed to have something else like a wide sash at the waist. Alternatively, the original plan could have been for the matching buttons to be covered by a scarf, decoration or something similar, perhaps another bit of ruffle like what is around her neck. That bit looks atached to the collar. The light colored buttons look like metal. The dark ones could be a lot of things, maybe glass. What argues against the lght buttons being part of the original design is the size of the button holes, all of which could easily handle the large, dark buttons.
                            Thanks, Anna, I see what you mean about the buttons. Other photos I’ve seen of reformatory inmates show them wearing a plain dress with a white apron over the top. Perhaps the jacket was added to make the photo look less institutional?

                            Biddy’s little curl reminds me of the poem attributed to Longfellow:

                            There was a little girl
                            Who had a little curl
                            Right in the middle of her forehead;
                            When she was good
                            She was very, very good,
                            But when she was bad she was horrid.

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                            • There also appears to be some sort of stain on the front of her jacket near the third and fourth buttons. The jacket has seen better days and was almost certainly second hand.

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                              • Originally posted by Phillip Walton View Post
                                There also appears to be some sort of stain on the front of her jacket near the third and fourth buttons. The jacket has seen better days and was almost certainly second hand.
                                Well spotted, Phillip.

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