Originally posted by Gary Barnett
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Biddy the Chiver’s Khazi
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Originally posted by Robert Linford View PostI was looking at 1891 - you had Abraham, born Lancs, and there were also references to Lincolnshire, Cheshire and Essex.
George Evans makes some sense geographically, but prior to her 1901 incarceration at Stone, there’s no evidence that I’ve seen of Biddy being in Kent. Which was why I latched onto Louisa’s east end origins.
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Originally posted by Edward Stow View PostPronounced as spelt.
A chiv = knife
Does it have the same origin as ‘chivvy’ - to hurry someone along?
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Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
Thats how Ive always said it, but people often say shiv. My grandkids tell me Ive got it wrong, but their pronunciations are horribly American. They even say Zee instead of Zed!
Does it have the same origin as chivvy - to hurry someone along?
The word may come from a Romani word for knife, chivvomengro which supplies various verbs. It can also mean the woody remains from processing flax or hemp, or to stab someone with something that is not necessarily a knife.
We learn Z = zee in grade school and to be clear, Z as in zebra. Internationally zed is correct. Zee like zebra leads to corrections and ridicule.The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript
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Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
Wikipedia actually has a short page on "Shiv" and a longer page on Wiktionary. That is how it is pronounced in American gangster films.
The word may come from a Romani word for knife, chivvomengro which supplies various verbs. It can also mean the woody remains from processing flax or hemp, or to stab someone with something that is not necessarily a knife.
We learn Z = zee in grade school and to be clear, Z as in zebra. Internationally zed is correct. Zee like zebra leads to corrections and ridicule.
It’s odd that Biddy arrives on the scene with her nickname already established and we can’t find any previous incidents to justify it. Perhaps she earned it without falling foul of the authorities.
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