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  • #46
    Considering the parish system and seeing the post below where a parish in Ireland is mentioned, I wonder if MJK could be back tracked from London by parish register? If she ever applied for charity she must have been asked to name her home parish. Whether Wales or Ireland, maybe there is a Mary Jane ________ in some of these relevant records that would look interesting?
    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
      Considering the parish system and seeing the post below where a parish in Ireland is mentioned, I wonder if MJK could be back tracked from London by parish register? If she ever applied for charity she must have been asked to name her home parish. Whether Wales or Ireland, maybe there is a Mary Jane ________ in some of these relevant records that would look interesting?
      Ballylongford isnít far from Limerick.

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      • #48
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        • #49
          Very interesting thread, Gary. Thanks for posting all this follow up.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Debra Arif View Post
            Very interesting thread, Gary. Thanks for posting all this follow up.
            Thanks, Debs.

            I’ve always had a soft spot for old Biddy and I thought she deserved a thread of her own. I should have her death cert today (pdf) and I’ve got some other irons in the fire.

            The echoes of the MJK story are interesting don’t you think? There was apparently a lot of animosity towards the Irish who emigrated to South Wales as a result of the famine. I wonder if that’s why the Enrights moved away from Tredegar and wound up in Essex/London. They don’t seem to have been too welcome there either - at least not in West Ham.

            There’s a Bridget Enright of about the same age as Biddy’s mother who spent much of her later life in and out of the Poplar workhouse. I think she may have died in a fire in Poplar in March Q 1922. A Julia Enright of the same age as Biddy’s older sister also died in Poplar in the same quarter.

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            • #51
              Birth Cert

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              • #52
                Death Cert

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                • #53
                  Poor old Biddy, her heart finally gave out. 204, Hoxton Street was the Shoreditch Infirmary.

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                  • #54
                    1911

                    Biddy, her mother Bridget, her sister Julia (using the surname Butcher) and three of Julia’s children were recorded at 6, Moore’s Buildings, Shoreditch on the 1911 census. Someone had initially included Thomas O’Rourke as the head of the household and then crossed his name out.

                    We know that Thomas had been sentenced to 6 months’ imprisonment on 1st Feb, 1911 for assaulting a female, so he would still have been in prison when the census was taken on 2nd April. He was due to be released on 1st August but may in fact have been freed slightly earlier. On 26th July, Biddy was admitted to the Whitechapel Infirmary suffering from fractured ribs. She was admitted from 3, Flower and Dean Street rather than Moore’s Buildings.

                    Who was the female O’Rourke assaulted? Was it Biddy herself, some other woman he was entangled with, or just a random victim he encountered?

                    If Biddy had dobbed her old man in in some way, he may have come out of prison looking for revenge and found her hiding in F&D. Perhaps it was he who fractured her ribs.

                    That’s all very conjectural, I know, but it ties into the known facts, as does Arthur Harding’s version of events, aside from its dramatic finale.

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                    • #55
                      1912

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                      Iím not sure which Inebriate Reformatory had the good fortune to receive Biddy, but the LMA holds patient records of the Farmfield Reformatory to which many London female inebriates were sent.

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                      • #56
                        The mug shots and description below tie in reasonably well to Arthur Harding’s description. Did he, as he claimed, actually lock on to those rather haunted-looking eyes across a crowded room?

                        Harding mentions that Biddy at one point lived in one of Jimmy Smith’s properties in Flower and Dean Street, which also ties in nicely with the 1911 infirmary record. One of Harding’s close associates, though, was Jimmy Smith’s stepson, so perhaps he heard Biddy’s story through him and didn’t actually meet her.

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                        • #57
                          She looks quite smart.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                            She looks quite smart.
                            She does. In the profile pic she looks a bit like my old mum. Perhaps that’s why I’ve got such a soft spot for her.

                            I should add that my mum’s character was the polar opposite of the chiver’s.

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                            • #59
                              Biddyís Character

                              Just a reminder:

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                              Edit: IPN 30/7/1910

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                              • #60
                                Called her out of her name?

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